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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyLaymatina View Post
    Unlike the hundreds of children in Gaza who were recently blasted to death by Israel with white phosphorous explosives. Talk about oppression of minorities. Imagine what you and yours would say if any one did same to hundreds of Jewish children in Israel.
    If it was deliberate I'd say the same thing. But if Israel is trying to exterminate the Palestinians they are doing a damn bad job of it. Israel Liebrman included has accepted that there will be a Palestinian state. Rather strange considering they want to exterminate the Palestinians according to you.

    Err…he has said repeatedly that he hates what Zionism, a European ethnocentric national political philosophy, has done and is doing to the Palestinians in the Middle East.
    In Israel there are Arab members of the Israeli Supreme Court, Arab head of hospitals and there was an Arab minister in the last government. How many non-Muslims occupy such positions in Iran. It is Iran we are talking baout before people like you started the whatabouttery.


    Well that’s only because the Israeli government had them exterminated in among other places Gaza, Sabra and Shatila then pogrom’d most of the rest to concentration camps outside of Palestine.
    Ridiculously stupid comment.


    So according to you the Iranians are dangerous Muslims but the Mujaheddin (aka the Taliban and El Quida) “…are the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers” (quote from President Ronald Reagan)?
    Reagen didn't understand their twisted ideology. I have no problem with Iranians. My problem is with the ruling elite and their hate filled beliefs.



    No, I didn’t but that’s only because you just made that up.
    Reference: Frčre Jacques - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Ah..... Wiki.........yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyLaymatina View Post
    No more than I would feel comfortable with the religious and racist beliefs of this man Avigdor Lieberman who does have access to a red button which may explain why Iran now wants nuclear power. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/wo...t.html?_r=1&hp
    He's the Israeli Foreign Minister: since when do Foreign Ministers have their fingers on the red button? And is this at last an acknowledgement on your part that Iran's pursuit of a nuclear programme is not purely for peaceful domestic purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Kurtz View Post
    LOL - I think "Wall Street" did that job already.

    What is conducive to the Mahdi to come out ( i.e. work exoterically instead of esoterically ) is our willingness to listen to His message. Sadly, it seems, we are determined to ignore this message and needlessly suffer for a little bit longer.
    Listen to his messgage? What, become a Muslim? No thanks, I'll suffer on a bit longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    But you have striven in other posts to portray Christianity as the main problem...worldwide.
    Where? Religion is a problem. Do you disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    Where? Religion is a problem. Do you disagree?
    I disagree. ISLAM is a problem.

    unless you care to back up your drivel with instances of christian countries executing homosexuals & rape victims ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phinaeus View Post
    He's the Israeli Foreign Minister: since when do Foreign Ministers have their fingers on the red button? And is this at last an acknowledgement on your part that Iran's pursuit of a nuclear programme is not purely for peaceful domestic purposes?
    History tells us that weapons of mass destruction have only been used by those of the christian judao faiths. That tells us that the only thing we can be sure of is that those of these beliefs have no probledm with their use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    History tells us that weapons of mass destruction have only been used by those of the christian judao faiths.
    Oh. My. Good. God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    History tells us that weapons of mass destruction have only been used by those of the christian judao faiths. That tells us that the only thing we can be sure of is that those of these beliefs have no probledm with their use.
    Hopi, deep breath now; do you honestly believe that a person who was committed to living by Christian precepts and to follow the example and teaching of Jesus Christ could commit the acts you speak of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyLaymatina View Post
    Lastly as to Islam invading Europe.

    And speaking of historical knowledge, Islam was last thrown out of Western Europe in 1491 by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain at Granada and chased back to Morocco. And Ottoman Islam expansionism was held in check in Eastern Europe by Prince Vlad III of Wallachia (Southern Romania) from 1448-1476. Islam has never since posed a military threat to Europe.
    Errrr, actually no, that isn't the case at all.

    Suleiman the Magnificent attacked the City of Vienna and the surrounding Habsburg states in 1529. His Ottoman forces laid siege to the city which was under the command of the Habsburg mercenary Niklas Graf Salm, who successfully led the defense of the city. The retreating Ottoman forces managed a defensive line in Hungary, thereby conquering European (aka Habsburg) lands they held for many years.

    Sultan Mehmed IV sent his Grand Vizier to take Vienna again in 1683. Again they laid seige to the city, and were on the cusp of taking it when they were finally, and decisivley, defeated by a German-Austrian-Polish alliance under the command of John Sobieski.

    In both cases, the Ottoman forces had, initially, overwhelming numbers and military advantage - they were let down by an obsession of the Ottoman throne with capturing the city of Vienna. The latter posed a real and deadly threat to "European Civilisation" attacking as they were at the soft underbelly of the wreck of the Thirty Years War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    I disagree. ISLAM is a problem.

    unless you care to back up your drivel with instances of christian countries executing homosexuals & rape victims ?
    Executing rape victims - where has that happened?
    I can think of many Christian countries that execute homosexuals. Why should they be reprieved from justice just because of their gender preferences?

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