Dutch documentary on the influence of the Jewish-Israeli Lobby in the US

[blacbloc]

Them Jews is up to something. I don't know what it is but I don't like it!

Honest to God, what is it with some people and Jews? Take any group in isolation as a whole and you'll find something not to like about them; Jews, Irish, Men, people who like bananas... I just don't get it, surely people have better things to be worried about, like the Freemasons or something!

There isn't any problem with Jews other than the one that many of them have made for themselves. It's the Zionist/fascist project called 'Israel' and its influence on the US that is the problem. A situation has been created that has destabilised the entire region and now threatens global conflict because of the US's crass, arrogant and exploitative support for the theft of Palestine from its people. The US doesn't give a damn about the Jews any more than it does the Arabs. So long as it believes that its commercial/strategic interests are served by supporting 'Israel' it will go along with 'Israeli' bs. The moment that changes, 'Isrsael' will be dropped by the US immediately and it will not hesitate to destroy it if it chooses. If it becomes apparent to the US that China, say, is displeased with US folly in what is Palestine, the vicious nonsense known as 'Israel' will be brought to a swift end under some pretext or another. Jewish people in occupied Palestine would be fools not to understand that. Of course they are fools to be there in the first place since you cannot be a citizen of a country that doesn't really exist. No amount of bombing, maiming and thieving of other people's land will make it any different or better.

Any Jew who does not publicly renounce the idea that Judaism automatically confers citizenship on them in the state of Palestine is fascist. It hardly challenges anyone's intellectual faculties to comprehend that throwing Palestinians out of homes, land, villages, towns and cities they have inhabited for millenia is illegal and brutal. There is no 'Israel' that any right thinking person could respect.

Yanshuf and L'Chaim are cheerleaders for murder and dispossession, not fit for civilised society. They bring Judaism into disrepute through their own brand of Nazi fascism - advicating for the Palestinians what was done to the Jews in the name of being superior. Disgusting people. Let them rant all they want here - every word they write makes it evident to us all what the true nature of so-called 'Israel' is.

[cHeal]

It's an undisputed fact that Jewish Nation originated and lived in Judea where modern day Israel is situated now, it's not some biblical fairy tale as you seem to claim. The Roman occupation of Judea led to the loss of a homeland for the Jewish people until it was restored to them after World War Two.

Can I reclaim my ancestrial home in Kenya too then?

[Limerick Lad]

Can I reclaim my ancestrial home in Kenya too then?

If you are just being facetious and claiming Kenya as your ancestral home because Homo erectus the possible direct ancestors of modern Homo sapiens lived in Kenya during the Pleistocene epoch 1.8 million to 350 000 years ago the validity of your claim might be somewhat tenuous.
Otherwise unlike Jews who were dispossessed of their homeland in more recent times not in prehistory I'm sure your fellow Kenyans would welcome you with open arms should you decide to return to the land of your ancestors and wouldn't try to kill you and yours at every opportunity.

[Breadan O'Connor]

In case you haven't noticed, the motion never passed the House, following White House pressure not to alienate an important ally. In contrast, the House and Senate routinely pass almost unanimously resolutions actually drafted by AIPAC. You are not comparing like with like.

You're right in what you say.

Even more interesting is that the Jewish ADL lobbied strongly against the Armenian genocide resolution. What that whole episode shows is the relative powerlessness of the Armenians. They don't remotely compare in influence with the pro-Israel lobby.

[Sam Lord]

If you are just being facetious and claiming Kenya as your ancestral home because Homo erectus the possible direct ancestors of modern Homo sapiens lived in Kenya during the Pleistocene epoch 1.8 million to 350 000 years ago the validity of your claim might be somewhat tenuous.
Otherwise unlike Jews who were dispossessed of their homeland in more recent times not in prehistory I'm sure your fellow Kenyans would welcome you with open arms should you decide to return to the land of your ancestors and wouldn't try to kill you and yours at every opportunity.

So for up to how many thousand years is a claim still valid. And who decides ... you ?

Incidentially, can the native people in the USA have back all the (not inconsiderable)property Jewish people there now claim to own ?

[L'Chaim]

There isn't any problem with Jews other than the one that many of them have made for themselves. It's the Zionist/fascist project called 'Israel' and its influence on the US that is the problem. A situation has been created that has destabilised the entire region and now threatens global conflict because of the US's crass, arrogant and exploitative support for the theft of Palestine from its people. The US doesn't give a damn about the Jews any more than it does the Arabs. So long as it believes that its commercial/strategic interests are served by supporting 'Israel' it will go along with 'Israeli' bs. The moment that changes, 'Isrsael' will be dropped by the US immediately and it will not hesitate to destroy it if it chooses. If it becomes apparent to the US that China, say, is displeased with US folly in what is Palestine, the vicious nonsense known as 'Israel' will be brought to a swift end under some pretext or another. Jewish people in occupied Palestine would be fools not to understand that. Of course they are fools to be there in the first place since you cannot be a citizen of a country that doesn't really exist. No amount of bombing, maiming and thieving of other people's land will make it any different or better.

Any Jew who does not publicly renounce the idea that Judaism automatically confers citizenship on them in the state of Palestine is fascist. It hardly challenges anyone's intellectual faculties to comprehend that throwing Palestinians out of homes, land, villages, towns and cities they have inhabited for millenia is illegal and brutal. There is no 'Israel' that any right thinking person could respect.

Yanshuf and L'Chaim are cheerleaders for murder and dispossession, not fit for civilised society. They bring Judaism into disrepute through their own brand of Nazi fascism - advicating for the Palestinians what was done to the Jews in the name of being superior. Disgusting people. Let them rant all they want here - every word they write makes it evident to us all what the true nature of so-called 'Israel' is.

The only one ranting here is you. And this post of yours is an example. And what an ill thought out rant that is. All it's based in is wishful thinking

[seanciaran]

can you say where international law states that?

As we all know that there isn't even one binding resolution that states that?!

The international law prohibiting Jewish settlement activity in the West Bank is the Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The article provides that "the occupying power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own population into the territories it occupies."

As for the binding resolution....well it requires US support for any UN resolution to be deemed 'binding'. Given that the US is the primary supporter of zionism and the jewish terrorist statelet, it's not surprising to see that they will not agree with China, Britain, France and Russia on this one at the UN security council.

[yanshuf]

Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The article provides that "the occupying power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own population into the territories it occupies."

This article has no relevance as 1) it's not an occupied territory but a liberated one (from the Jordanians, as the League of Nations designated it for Jewish settlements) and 2) the Israeli government never told its people to go to Judea Samaria or Gaza, they came there by their own will, voluntarily.

As for the binding resolution....well it requires US support for any UN resolution to be deemed 'binding'. Given that the US is the primary supporter of zionism and the jewish terrorist statelet, it's not surprising to see that they will not agree with China, Britain, France and Russia on this one at the UN security council.

The UN resolutions are improportionately against Israel, and if one observes carefully, one can see how Aarab and Muslim countries control the UN agenda.

[seanciaran]

Quote=yanshuf;1575625]This article has no relevance as 1) it's not an occupied territory but a liberated one (from the Jordanians, as the League of Nations designated it for Jewish settlements) and 2) the Israeli government never told its people to go to Judea Samaria or Gaza, they came there by their own will, voluntarily."

It really is a waste of time to argue with you, but for the reader, I will end this interaction by refuting (yet again) your ridiculous response. The zionist 'government' may "never have told it's settlers to go anywhere, but their military protects settlers and allows them to persecute indigenous people in Hebron, Kyriat Arba etc. Moreover, with reference to Gaza, the 'government' did order the settlers to leave when it was deemed to dangerous for the jewish fanatics.




Quote-"The UN resolutions are improportionately against Israel, and if one observes carefully, one can see how Aarab and Muslim countries control the UN agenda."

Aw shucks! Or perhaps it's because the rest of the world knows that you're a shower of greedy, savage bastards?????

[yanshuf]

It really is a waste of time to argue with you, but for the reader, I will end this interaction by refuting (yet again) your ridiculous response. The zionist 'government' may "never have told it's settlers to go anywhere, but their military protects settlers and allows them to persecute indigenous people in Hebron, Kyriat Arba etc. Moreover, with reference to Gaza, the 'government' did order the settlers to leave when it was deemed to dangerous for the jewish fanatics.

so you just strengthen what I said, that it has no relevance whatsoever to the legality of settlements.

The Israeli government ethnically cleansed Jews from Gaza, something I'm against, and it just proved that it would be just as easy to ethnically cleanse Arabs. One who supports judenrein can not claim a higher moral stand (that is, if you ever had one).

The only thing I'm sure of, from reading your posts, is that you are kind of an anarchist, finding his wrong way in a the jungle of leftist propaganda.