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    Can HAHAHA and set straight log in at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAHAHA View Post
    you people are nuts what is this site is there an award for how many people you can attack in a minute - can u say crazy i think Gruffalo is a bit crazy!!!!!!!!
    Thanks for the compliment!

    You have signed up to a thread talking about a man who has been killed, and you have chosen the user name "HAHAHA". You think I am crazy?

    Would HAWHAW not have been more appropriate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAHAHA View Post
    you people are nuts what is this site is there an award for how many people you can attack in a minute - can u say crazy i think Gruffalo is a bit crazy!!!!!!!!
    I comment on the level of interest, you come back with gibberish. Why are you here?...

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    There back? Hello my little men women. Over on stormfront there declare mikessa a fallen hemaphroditeeee hero. WhAt you Say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angry irish View Post
    [COLOR=Red]FOR THE ATTENTION OF ALL ON POLITICS.IE[/COLOR]

    I have not been logged onto this site for over 24 hrs now, but i have spent the last hour reading over your recent posts - you can imagine my anger and also disapointment in you people and in what you have been stating - how dare you refer to us, Mikes friends as nazi's. That is disgusting.

    I call on the people running this site to either close this discussion down or block the users who are saying these things.

    This is meant to be a place to discuss things on, not to SLANDER people on and make very suggestive comments regarding people's previous actions that can be very very harming.

    If this slander continues i will be seeking legal advice - i will not be branded as a nazi and neither will any of my friends.

    These comments have been placed on a public site and in a written form so therefore this is actually libel which is taken very seriously - defamation of people is not ok and you people should be intelligent enough to know this.

    Go on check my spelling, i know you want to - and if that's all you use your time for then you have a very sad sad life!!

    You cannot begin to imagine what i would have really liked to say about you people, but i am alot more intelligent they ye are and it has definnetly been shown.
    you can neither libel a dead man with a nazi tattoo or an anonymous user name on the internet . Interpol can investigate them though .

    are you being a man or a woman today just out of interest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAHAHA View Post
    mothball - your quite the detective there arent you or maybe your just taking through your a**e
    Maybe Dwyer was just the most unlucky person in the world. His life seems to be full of coincidences.

    Have a look at the friends list of Mario Tadik. It takes two minutes to create a profile. You'll see more nutters than you can shake a stick at.

    You're either the guy in the photos or an associate/sympathiser since the profile has gone private. Don't worry, I saved a screen shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruffalo View Post
    Thanks for the compliment!

    You have signed up to a thread talking about a man who has been killed, and you have chosen the user name "HAHAHA". You think I am crazy?

    Would HAWHAW not have been more appropriate?
    hahaha is what i think of your comments, iv never seen the likes of it bloody lunatics and for u to comment on my username u should read back on some of your rotten comments. and whats with your user name? u should change it to crazy. good luck to ye all thats all i have to say good luck!!!
    p.s therapy can help solve alot of your mental problems, why dont ya google a good therapist in your area - from the sounds of ya they'd make a bloody fortune!!

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    The Bolivian vice president was interviewed and here are some things he disclosed.

    - Metioned Rozsa entered the country and had two separate identities, he proposes the question, if Rozsa was from Santa Cruz why was he staying at a hotel with a false identity, and why did he move around hotels in the same city.

    - He said it was alarming to him that Rozsa was a recruiter, idealogue, a military trainer, and a dangerous man who had began recruiting folks since 2008.

    - Reporter asked him questions about the claims of a shootout taking place, the security cameras being disabled, and the absence of a fiscal in the operation, and how long the cadavers were in the hotel. Vice Pres said that this was a sensitive operation and different from a common operation, and the dangers to the police were much more elevated. He went on to say that he wants to know exactly how the operation went down and will meet with the operations officer before commenting further. He then reminded the reporter that he was in Brazil during the operation and had not yet met with the officer in charge.

    -Reporter asks whether this group was responsible for the dynamite attack on the Catholic ministers home. Vice Pres said there is evidence to suggest that the group was behind the attack on the Cardinal as well as previous attacks on gov minister named Saul Avalos, and a delegate named Gabriela Montano.

    -Vice Pres goes on to mention that this group and their associates posed a real threat, and it puzzles him that they have been characterized as simple artists and musicians by some. He says the intel he has suggests they were much more than just simple artist or musicians/tourists.

    -He finished by saying that there is only about 10% known regarding this group and their larger supporting structure. Rozsa was in the country to recruit and train paramilitaries to destabilize the country. He mentioned that their funding and logistics structure is much larger than what we think, and that they had a lot of help while in Bolivia. He mentions the presence of ultra right wing fascist organizations intending to provoke violence and chaos within the country and questions where the training camps are located. He says much more will be known in the near future, but he says his allegations are based on concrete intelligence and documentation they've received.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    But it is Croatians who keep popping up in the Bolivian situation today. I'd bet that it was Branko paying the bills of Flores, Dwyer, and the rest of the crew.
    Branko Marinkovic is one of the wealthiest man in Bolivia. He is a US educated businessman whose family fled Croatia about 50yrs ago. He has been accused of amassing over 20,000 acres of land illegally (he denies this) Both his siblings have also been accused of money laundering and state theft (they too deny this) He is one of Morales' harshest critics and one of the leaders of the opposition, as well as one of the men with most to lose if Morales has his way regarding land reforms and investigations into the wealth of some of these men.

    Bolivias Santa Cruz region has been rallied under an autonomy cry by the department governor and his allies. All the rallies, all the department flags, propaganda, songs, t-shirts, etc are all a fairly new phenomenon since Morales has taken power. Who funds all of this? The department civic association, and who is the president of the civic association? Mr Marinkovic.
    The civic association the department governor and their allied groups, like the Nacion Camba (Seperatist, racist group) are all different arms of the same entity. They are a very tight knit group, and anyone who has lived in Santa Cruz will tell you they're different faces of the same person.

    Here is the Nacion Camba group, notice they formed their own "municipal guard" that are independent of the police and answer only to the Nacion camba leaders. These are not boy scouts. The indigenous women in the video are crying because they claim they've been beaten and attacked by this group. These are the guys that ran around the city with a swastika on their jeep.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLnZy9sdlcI&feature=related]YouTube - Nación camba, discriminación a Bolivianos, 4 de mayo de 2008[/ame]

    These same opposition leaders last year orchestrated the taking of government institutions by their groups of armed thugs. It ultimately failed and peace was restored. There are members of this opposition who truly are radical ideologue extremists while others are just anti socialist who want to protect their interests. There is division inside the opposition with one of the most committed of them having fled (Mauricio Iturri) to Miami USA after the failed taking of government institutions last year, he is the current Santa Cruz governors harshest critic from abroad and calls him a traitor.

    My own personal view is that Michael Dwyer had no idea the true severity of what he was getting into. I don't think there was a shootout and I don't think this was a hit squad at all. I do think that Rozsa and some of the others where there to recruit, smuggle guns, and train guerrilla forces that would eventually try and topple the government. I don't think Dwyer knew all the facts, and I would be very interested to know what his employer has to say and who paid for Dwyer to fly to the middle of nowhere in Bolivia and hang around someone like Rozsa who affiliated himself with a despicable group like Nacion Camba and was hell bent against a democratically elected president. I hope his family eventually finds the truth, and I would be pressing the Irish government and his employer for answers.


    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    I'm the thread starter. I don't associate with racists like the scum who post on that site, I have only ever seen that site once, once was enough. As it happens it wasn't me who mentioned the tattoo, it was me who posted up the pic of the tattoo after it had been mentioned. If you're keen for Mr. Dwyer not to be slandered then try as well not to slander me.
    I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I meant the thread starter over on their site, not the thread starter on this site(you). Apologies for the confusion it certainly wasn't my intention to label you anything or to slander you in any matter.

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    Accepted, sorry if I misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAHAHA View Post
    hahaha is what i think of your comments, iv never seen the likes of it bloody lunatics and for u to comment on my username u should read back on some of your rotten comments. and whats with your user name? u should change it to crazy. good luck to ye all thats all i have to say good luck!!!
    I think you will find my user name to be rather appropriate - Grumpy Rude Uncensored ********************er From Around Laois Offaly

    I assume that my rotten comments which you speak of are the ones where I point out that your nazi friend was indeed a nazi, as evidenced by his nazi tatoo and his nazi friends etc. etc.
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