Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[toxic avenger]

And a profile of Flores:

Former acquaintances in Budapest say Flores found work as a journalist and correspondent’s assistant for the BBC’s Spanish-language service and Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia , which took him to former Yugoslavia as it descended into war in the early 1990s.
At this point, Flores abandoned journalism and joined the fighting, helping to establish a foreign volunteers brigade based around the northern Croatian town of Osijek, and fought for Croatia’s independence from Belgrade’s rule.
“The Serbs detained Eduardo for three or four days, beat him up and accused him of being a spy. He was livid and told a Croatian journalist soon afterwards that he wanted to fight,” a close friend of Flores in Budapest told The Irish Times on condition of anonymity.
Flores claimed to have been wounded several times in Croatia, and to have been promoted to the rank of colonel and given Croatian citizenship by then-president Franjo Tudjman.
But the Balkan wars also cast a dark shadow on Flores’ reputation, and caused several old Budapest acquaintances to shun him, particularly as rumours swirled that he may have ordered the killing of a Swiss and a British journalist who went to Croatia to investigate his volunteers brigade.

He also acted as Carlos the Jackal's interpreter apparently...
Wild journey ends for Eduardo Flores, 'soldier and guerrilla' - The Irish Times - Mon, Apr 20, 2009

[Ah Well]

The "Irish Bulletin" has a not dissimilar feel to Flores blog site - the two are linked.
The Irish Bulletin

So is Politics.ie

Out of interest .... have a gander at that pic of yer wan in green called "Eire" on the left in the above link and note the cross symbol above her head

and then see similar here;

Nazi symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[jeffdolan]

I think jeffdolan missed this post....

My enemy's enemy is my friend- Sinn Fein supporters were once poleed as to what poitical keaning they subscribed to some years ago, and they were they only group that had 50% describing themselves as leftist and the other 50% as rightwing.

A Homosexual Jew of Hungarian extraction, who converted to Islam aligining himself with such unsavoury political bed fellows might not be all that unusual if their cause is the same-i.e Regional autonomy. Remember, the white armies in the Russian Civil war were a motley assortment of anarchists, monarchists, social democrats, liberals and anyone else who was not a Marxist Bolsheivik.

In Bolivia, they may not share the same sensitivities we do here in Europe with regards to such posturing.

Certainly, I'd have more sympthy with the indigenous highlanders of Bolivia on many level, but shooting a young fella (i.e Mr.Dwyer) in his bed and alleging he was planning a coup seems to be a repetition of behaviour practised by previous incumbants.

What pains me is the fact that his family are obviously reeling from the unfortunate consequences of his mis-adventures. We don't know yet why he was there, but usng the 'Nazi' slur against a recently deceased young man, based on a flimsy interpretation of a tattoo is low and vulgar.

I'd have a pretty low opinion of anyone that works for Shell in Mayo, but that is no excuse for labelling someone a fascist and a racist.

So apologise now those of you that have slurred Mr.Dwyer. Espcially considering the fact that his friends on facebook include a black man, and a number of Asians and Chinese.

[cactusflower]

Mr Flores was the leader of the Hungarian Nationalist Anarchy Party. Adherents have voiced strong opposition to socialist governments in Bolivia and Venezuela, and Third Position has taken hold in opposition movements in these countries.

In Ireland, the ideas of Third Position have remained on the political fringe where they are most prominently promoted by a former leading member of the Provisional IRA.
Whose the Provo?

This "Third Position" is a new one on me, but it has the cut of the old National "Socialist" (facist) position of muddying the waters to confuse people about their real stance.

Anti-communism and anti-semitism make their due appearances on the blogs.

[jeffdolan]

Out of interest .... have a gander at that pic of yer wan in green called "Eire" on the left in the above link and note the cross symbol above her head

and then see similar here;

Nazi symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That image you mention of the woman with the Celtic Cross is actually part of the 'International Wall' mural on the Falls Road in Belfast. Sinn Fein and the Provos say exactly what goes on that wall. Other murals on that wall include a picture of Frederick Douglas, the 19th century African American activist who vistied Ireland, and was a close friend and confidant of Daniel O'Connell.Neo-Fascist murals will never see the light of day on the Falls Road.

The Celtic Cross is an Irish symbol, but unfortunatly was hijacked by neo-fascists in the post war period, who needed a new symbol due to the loss of their beloved swastika, which was banned in most European countries. Wearing a Celtic Cross here is a normal part of our culture, but doing the same will earn one a few raised eye brows if travelling in Europe, thanks to nazi boneheads literally stealing it from us.

I had to explain this to a number of young Italian students when I visited the Falls road with them and they saw the mural in question. Thankfully, I got a number of aproving nods from local taxi drivers parked nearby who overheard my explanation of why the Celtic cross was on the mural.

[merle haggard]

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Regarding Mike Dwyer and the 'Nazi' slur being used against him-below is a link to his list of Facebook friends, a list that includes a number of people of different races-



People with so-called SS tatoos aren't usually prone to making friends with blacks and Asians, now, are they?

but they are prone to making friends with nazis , and Flores was a nazi . As is his Nacion Camba

as we can see some of their members in Nacion Camba green and white regalia driving about santa cruz in this vehicle

Regarding Eduardo Flores and his alleged 'Nazism'

theres no alleged about it . Flores was a nazi

Below is a link to a trailer for a film about his life;

YouTube - Eduardo Rozsa Flores in Chico

Mr.Flores was a Bolivian, whose father was a HUNGARIAN JEW, and his mother was Spanish. The family moved to Chile but quit that country when Pinochet took over. His involvement in the war in Croatia occured when an ethnic Hungarian village was attacked by Serb forces.

He later converted to Islam.

so what ? He was also a nazi .

It appears Flores was a Revolutionary Conservative

Adolf Hitler was also a revolutionary conservative . It means nazi . So does national anarchist .

as opposed to racist fascist( the latter he clearly was not). His political paradigm seems to have been multi-dimensional, and certainly eccentric. This may confuse and irritate certain people who've been posting on this thread.

Nacion Camba is openly racist and fascist . Its racist against indigenous inhabitants of Bolivia .

here they are on the streets of santa cruz were we can plainly see their European featured members whipping and generally beating unfortunate Indians who happen to stray into their path . Theyre nazis and racists . Uncannily this video also makes a reference to former yugoslavia at the beginning . Its a bit rough so be warned

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMR0VsjzvN8]YouTube - NACION CAMBA[/ame]

With regards to Bolivia, the town he came from and die in, Santa Cruz, has not only been a hub of anti-Morales sentiment, but traditionally a region that sees itself as culturally seperate from Bolivia North Western highlands, where Morales hails from.

culturally , economically and racially . And is a centre for nazi activity . Its full of nazis many with a Croatian background .

hence the Flores seems to have been functioning as an intellectual advocate for Santa Cruz's pro-autonomy sentiment.

as a public supporter of a bunch of nazis who drive round santa cruz with swastika emblazoned jeeps kicking the crap out of inferior races - Bolivian indians

Why Mr.Dwyer was hanging out with Mr.Flores is unknown

the Bolivian police seem fairly sure what they were up to

, but hardline leftists who've talken to oppurtunity to slander the man as a 'Nazi' should be ashamed of themselves, and should apologise

for calling the openly nazi Flores a nazi or for calling the gun fixated youg Irishman with the SS tattoo a fellow traveller of a nazi ?

.I won't hold my breath, though. Intolerence, fanaticism and sheer crassness has always been a feature of hard leftists as well as rightwingers. I mean, there's people who've posted support on this thread of so called 'Socialist' Yugoslavia. They've interpreted the genocidal campaign for a 'Greater Serbia' as mere defence. And of course, hardcore Ra heads aren't known for their subtlety.

are you seriously claiming that Croatian neo nazis werent deeply involved in the Croatian war ? that the international brigade fighting for Croatia also wasnt full to the neck of neo nazis from accross the globe ?

My take is; Mr.Dwyer may have been some sort of driver or assistant to Flores.

a well known fascist , and hsi driver ends up with a tattoo idntical to those worn by modern day fascists and national anarchists in Europe which has an SS insignia

I don't think Flores was attempting a coup-the evidence so far doesn't add up.

why not ? Flores openly procalimed that Bolivia should be broken up . That the european settlers and colonisers should not have to share land , wealth and resources with its indigenous population

Mr.Flores may have been too vocal in his opposition to Morales, and his killing may have been a subtle warning to other members of Bolivia's opposition-thats the way politics has always worked in South America, whether it's been the left or right in power.

thats not the way Evo Morales politics have ever worked . What other political opponents has he had bumped off ?

My condolences go out to the family and friends of Mr.Dwyer, who are very much innocent and grieving parties to this whole affair.

some of them , his freinds , are on here telling downright lies . You seem a bit allergic to the truth yourself .

[Mr Crowley]

People with so-called SS tatoos aren't usually prone to making friends with blacks and Asians, now, are they?

'So called SS'? Bullsh1t!



Who were the Nazi's allies in WW2, could they have been Asian?
There are also accounts of Blacks serving in the Muslim brigade of the Waffen SS and 'Freies Arabien Legion' during WW2. There was also an SS Indian legion and an Australian Aboriginal was an SS camp guard convicted of war crimes.

Dwyer had an SS tattoo, no doubt about it. If I had a tattoo that had the clearly recognisable letters 'IRA' in the below a load of tribal squiggles it would still be a chucky tattoo wouldn't it?

Furthermore, there may well be some symbolism connected with the rest of the tattoo. Tribal tattoos are often used to code gang markings/signs.

[jeffdolan]

Jeff Dolan refuses to see a clear SS tatoo on Dwyer's arm, do you really think he will see a post which doesn't agree with him?

I don't refuse to see anything-what's your take on the fact that Mr.Dwyer is friends with a black guy, an Asian guy and two Chinese guys on his facebook account? Are you refusing to see you may be mistaken?

[Set Straight]

Out of interest .... have a gander at that pic of yer wan in green called "Eire" on the left in the above link and note the cross symbol above her head

and then see similar here;

Nazi symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your out right disgusting, get help

[lostexpectation]

Sic Semper Tyrannus: Szavazás a Lisszaboni Szerz?désr?l
now this is damning evidence he was against the lisbon treaty