Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[Gruffalo]

[SIZE="5"]Hotel Manager contradicts police[/SIZE]

From La Razón newspaper (Bolivia)

1. Hernán Rosel, the hotel's Manager, says that all five members of the group were in their rooms before, during and after the attack on the Cardinal's residence.

2. He says that an inspection of the rooms by the hotel's own security staff found no indication whatsoever that any member of the group fired at the police. The only bullet holes were near the bodies.

3. He is adamant that their car, which police claim was used in the attack on the Cardinal's residence, never left the hotel.

Rosel stated that the five signed the hotel registry on Tuesday night. "Three of them arrived at 8.30p.m., and two more at 10.40 p.m. They said they were visiting Santa Cruz and decided to change hotel. The Receptionist told me that they were very polite."
...

The Special Forces group entered the hotel just after 4.00 a.m. They blew open the door of Room 458, where Eduardo Rozsa was staying. According to the hotel security's report, there were 10 bullet holes close to where his body lay. There wasn't a single bullet hole in the door or the corridor.

Room 457 had 3 bullet holes in the wall, near the bed, where Magyarosi Arpad died. In Room 456, where Michael Martin Dwyer died, there was a single bullet hole....

Now that is very interesting.

[Stepp]

"Eduardo lived in the jungle and was involved in regular fights... he was a soldier, a partisan, fighting together with thousands of others in the jungle,"

So FG, Labour, SF etc. are all hiding out in the jungle with weapons if your comparison is correct.

You asked previously what I knew about Morales. I know that he was born and raised in Bolivia and elected by the people of Bolivia to be their leader. The right wing Europeans "fighting" there were not elected to do anything by any Bolivian. They were, however, certainly in the pay of someone you can be sure ... and that person or persons you will find among the "business" class .. possibly backed by a foreign power that claims to uphold freedom and democracy.

When will we be told the name of the "security company" that was apparently unable to recruit anyone local for their legitimate work so they had to import some young lad from County Tipperary. There wasn't full employment in Bolivia last time I heard.

By the way, you keep on using the word hypocrisy in a manner that betrays a clear ignorance of it's meaning. I only point this out for your benefit.

Eduardo wasn't "fighting in the jungle", he was 49, getting old for that. And why would they sleep in a hotel after "fighting in the jungle"?

The whole world is taking over the bull*t that they were "mercenaries", just because Morales says so. And now he is making Obama say it:

Bolivia's Morales: US conspiring against him

He wants to get it out of Obama, because he already discredited himself with the whole story. Read how Obama dismissed the accusation, and talked in general. He cant condemn this specific case, because its obviously fishy.

There is an interview with Eduardo, where he says, that he wakes up at nights because of bad dreams of horrors of Croatian war. Its been 17 years since he was in that war. So if someone fought in a war 17 years ago, does it make him a potential mercenary now?

He most probably WAS politically involved, because he was Bolivian, and it was his country too, and he was opposing the coca financed regime of Morales, but he was there for observing and talking.

Someone said, not to make indoctrinated assumptions. So don't make an assumption that they were "mercenaries" either.

So far evidence presented shows the they were killed, not that they have done anything. Not just anything violent, but anything illegal.

They were killed, and now some evidence will be fabricated to prove their guilt. The two arrested will surely confess anything their captors want to hear if they want to stay alive.

[toxic avenger]

[SIZE=5]Hotel Manager contradicts police[/SIZE]

From La Razón newspaper (Bolivia)

1. Hernán Rosel, the hotel's Manager, says that all five members of the group were in their rooms before, during and after the attack on the Cardinal's residence.

2. He says that an inspection of the rooms by the hotel's own security staff found no indication whatsoever that any member of the group fired at the police. The only bullet holes were near the bodies.

3. He is adamant that their car, which police claim was used in the attack on the Cardinal's residence, never left the hotel.

Rosel stated that the five signed the hotel registry on Tuesday night. "Three of them arrived at 8.30p.m., and two more at 10.40 p.m. They said they were visiting Santa Cruz and decided to change hotel. The Receptionist told me that they were very polite."
...

The Special Forces group entered the hotel just after 4.00 a.m. They blew open the door of Room 458, where Eduardo Rozsa was staying. According to the hotel security's report, there were 10 bullet holes close to where his body lay. There wasn't a single bullet hole in the door or the corridor.

Room 457 had 3 bullet holes in the wall, near the bed, where Magyarosi Arpad died. In Room 456, where Michael Martin Dwyer died, there was a single bullet hole....

Entirely in keeping with what I believe happened. They were executed, there was no fire-fight.

[Mr Crowley]

There does seem to be a rash of new members attracted to this issue, it's almost like a campaign. Where oh where is our auld friend Pogon, these were his type of people and recruiting young people into far right extremism was his type of thing too.

[Gruffalo]

Entirely in keeping with what I believe happened. They were executed, there was no fire-fight.

Absolutely, it also explains why they were in their boxers amongst other things.

[Utopian Hermit Monk]

A second newspaper, El Nuevo Día, raising questions



- shortly before the police entered the hotel, the internal security cameras were short-circuited, and re-activated six hours later.

- someone gained access to the password-protected software controlling the hotel's security cameras, and everything was deleted, from Tuesday, when the alleged 'terrorists' arrived, until five hours after the police operation.

[Sam Lord]

[QUOTE=Stepp;1576176]Eduardo wasn't "fighting in the jungle", he was 49, getting old for that. And why would they sleep in a hotel after "fighting in the jungle"?

The whole world is taking over the bull*t that they were "mercenaries", just because Morales says so. And now he is making Obama say it:

QUOTE]


I was only quoting his friend and publisher who claimed to have been speaking to him recently.

And if "Eduardo" was politically involved because he was a Bolivian and it was his country too what about the other right wing European characters .. the sniper and so. Were they partly Bolivian or just looking for work like Dwyer.

[Stepp]

Indeed many of the JNA veterans that I spoke to including a Slovenian captain always and still believes that he was fighting for Yugoslavia and that he viewed Croatia's so called 'national war of liberation' as a seperatist rebellion carrying out a Western Imperialist agenda aimed at dismantling and destroying socialist Yugoslavia.

Slovenia's separation was by agreement, the Yugoslav army moved when Croatia wanted to separate too, but was denied.

But that's not the point.

Yugoslavia had an option to enter EU before the east-European countries. It was dismissed by the Serbian delegation. If they had accepted, the whole Yugoslavia would be a well-developed EU country now. Instead of all the war and suffering that was unleashed, and restlessness that is still present.

[toxic avenger]

Interesting scenario emerging. A young Irish citizen might well have been set up and unlawfully executed by the Bolivian state. If so, how will the Irish government respond? I'm wonder if it'll be stronger than the traditional 'let it wither on the vine' approach in relation to victims of British operations...

[pete2]

Interesting scenario emerging. A young Irish citizen might well have been set up and unlawfully executed by the Bolivian state. If so, how will the Irish government respond? I'm wonder if it'll be stronger than the traditional 'let it wither on the vine' approach in relation to victims of British operations...

What was he executed for? There is no Irish embassy in Bolivia so they will probably rely on the brits and their secret services for most of their views into it?