Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[imoretti]

For the record, Cisneros already owns the ATB television station here. While this station, like most, if not all, of the stations here, is saturated daily with government ads (campaign season is upon us), the state channel 7 features absolutely no publicity by the opposition... only more of their own.

[imoretti]

You obviously arent aware that it also invoved replacement of the managing editor or the background of the new owners.

Trinicenter.com - The Bush Family's Murky Dealings in Venezuela
Of course anyone who thinks the pseudo NGO and CIA front HRF reports are fair is entittled to their delusions.
Hugo Acha not a CIA front

According to this article published last week in La Prensa, Chavez and Cisneros formed a truce of sorts following mediation in 2004 by Jimmy Carter. Since then, both camps have significantly toned down their respective public rhetoric toward each other.

Grupo venezolano Cisneros, el nuevo propietario de La Razón

Money talks, left or right. You've seen the latest here in Santa Cruz? Ex-unionistas and local barras bravas who were mortal enemies of MAS have just had a change of ideological heart and now are throwing their support behind MAS candidate Isaac Avalos:

La admisión de unionistas en el MAS desata una ola de críticas

The Ponchos Rojos in La Paz yesterday welcomed the new allies who in 2008 opposed the arrival of Evo Morales to the cruzeña capital and participated in the violent seizure of public institutions and in the mobilizations with racist tones against immigrants of the highlands.

... and they publicly promise to use violence if anyone tries to stop them from "campaigning" for their candidate:

Ex unionistas advierten con usar la fuerza

It would probably go down something like this:

Vecinos afines al MAS desalojan a huelguistas de la Fejuve en El Alto

Neighbors supposedly aligned with MAS interrupted and removed in violent fashion yesterday the mayor of El Alto, Fanor Nava, and members of FEJUVE from the headquarters of this organization, where they had established a hunger strike for the dimunition of income from the Direct Hydrocarbons Tax (IDH) in 2010.

Too often in blogs such as this one, I'm seeing the right painted as the demons, while the left is characterized as angels. The foregoing is an effort to add some balance to the political equation, not to cast the right as victims.

[Cathar]

Confirmation that former US ambassador Bolivia Philip Goldberg was an intelligence agent is demonstrated b his appointment as the new Assistant Secretary for Intelligence and Research Affairs Department of State. According to the official report of the Obama administration, the position chosen for Goldberg has the rank of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State.
Goldberg assumes the position of Director of the Office of Intelligence and Research (INR), Department of State, United States.

[imoretti]

I would imagine that he's quite qualified for the post. Ambassadors make good spies for any country. I'm not sure, though, what specific relevance it has to this thread.

[Cathar]

I would imagine that he's quite qualified for the post. Ambassadors make good spies for any country. I'm not sure, though, what specific relevance it has to this thread.

The specific relevance it has to this thread is that his balkan experience and the attempted balkanisation of the Cresent areas discussed earlier in this thread. Including using mercs like Eduardo Rosza with his intel contacts. Read both their cvs.

[Thac0man]

The specific relevance it has to this thread is that his balkan experience and the attempted balkanisation of the Cresent areas discussed earlier in this thread. Including using mercs like Eduardo Rosza with his intel contacts. Read both their cvs.

[Cathar]

The Bolivian Government Declares the U.S. Ambassador Philip Goldberg Persona Non GrataTLAXCALA : The Bolivian Government Declares the U.S. Ambassador Philip Goldberg Persona Non Grata

Today, President Evo Morales declared the U.S. Ambassador to Bolivia, Philip Goldberg, persona non grata, accusing him of financing the civic coup by the extreme right which took place on Tuesday in Santa Cruz.

Morales has repeatedly denounced the U.S. government for advising seditious groups in the eastern part of the country. In recent days he revealed that certain employees of the Embassy were financing the landowners demonstrations and road blockages.

Goldberg met in secret with the Prefect Rubén Costas, the leader of the separatists hardline wing, days before the outbreak of violence in the Cruceńa capital. The Foreign Ministry called urgently on the diplomat to explain his reasons for the meeting, recommended that he comport himself more carefully and reminded him that diplomats may not involve themselves in internal political affairs.

Despite this warning, Goldberg went on to visit with the Prefect of Chuquisaca, Savina Cuellar, linked with the civic business part of the separatist movement, and its known that he also met with the opposition prefects of Beni, Pando and Tarija........
Legislators, authorities from the Presidents office, and social leaders said that the separatist ambassador who worked in Kosovo now wishes to break Bolivia in two, through an alliance with a minority of agribusinesses and landowners.

[imoretti]

The government only cited Goldberg's "secret" meetings with opposition prefectos as the reason for his expulsion in 2008. I don't recall reading anywhere in which the government has ever tied Goldberg to the specific people who were shot in the hotel room. They knew of Rosza's group more than a year before Goldberg was kicked out and waited another seven months before killing them with the pretext that they were planning to assassinate the president. The timing just doesn't make sense to me.

[Cathar]

The government only cited Goldberg's "secret" meetings with opposition prefectos as the reason for his expulsion in 2008. I don't recall reading anywhere in which the government has ever tied Goldberg to the specific people who were shot in the hotel room. They knew of Rosza's group more than a year before Goldberg was kicked out and waited another seven months before killing them with the pretext that they were planning to assassinate the president. The timing just doesn't make sense to me.

I didnt mean Goldberg had direct contact with Rosza. ex State Department man Hugo acha had.
What group had Rosza before November 2008??????. The argentinians???

Goldberg and Rosza met the same Department leaders. Same Cainco people, Must look at the timing.

[imoretti]

Unfortunately, there is no physical evidence of any of this, at least in a legal sense. There hasn't been a single formal indictment (or grand jury investigation) of anyone here for seditious acts. The main protagonists are either missing, imprisoned, hospitalized or dead.

That Goldberg met with the prefectos was perfectly normal in his role as the US ambassador. CAINCO is a commerce group, so meeting them would be expected, too. The photo in which Venegas appears isn't exactly damning: it was taken at a large public event where anyone could, and apparently did, pose for a photo. Was Goldberg, a veteran security expert, so naive as to knowingly pose in public with someone he knew to be a criminal? (Not quite the same situation as the photo of Andrade and Rosza, eh?) I haven't seen a record of what they discussed; perhaps you may have? And I don't get the "secret meeting" stuff either. It's simple to set up a secure internet connection for "secret" communications. Goldberg, like any ambassador, would realize that any physical visits would not go unnoticed. The government, and the media, knew his whereabouts at all times.

I'll be the first to admit that the US government would prefer to see someone other than Evo in power here. But, I still can't see that being such a huge priority that they would hire out dirty work to such a band of misfits as the Rosza team. That sounds more like Hollywood to me.