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    I don't know cactus, to be honest, but I don't think an organisation looking for secession for what they perceive are an ethnically 'purer' Hungarian part of Transylvania, descendents, they believe of Atila, is ever going to be anything other than extreme right. The posing with guns and pseudo-uniforms, the fakey badges and insignia, the whole macho nonsense, it all screams neo-nazi...


    In 2006 the group became front page news in Hungarian papers because Ziua, a Bucharest daily, claimed that the Legion was a paramilitary organization planning attacks on Romania in order to establish an autonomous Hungarian (Szekler) area in the middle of Transylvania. The Romanian paper claimed that there were thousands enrolled in the Legion. The leaders of the Legion protested: it is an innocent organization that gives advice to young men and women interested in rock climbing. However, the Legion's internet website talked about survivor trips where the members carried heavy backpacks (20 kg) in addition to "weapons." They were schooled in marksmanship and the ability to detect mines. These don't sound like innocent rock climbing activities.
    Hungarian Spectrum: The Hungarian far-right in Bolivia--Eduardo Rózsa-Flores
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    what is mark tighe up to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    what is mark tighe up to?
    I think its quite obvious what he's doing, He's keeping the pot boiling.He used the ludicrous Airsoft photo from Ireland and not the Bolivian guns one of Mick Dwyer.
    “Elod first went to Ireland and then to Madrid and Bolivia. Elod worked on something in Ireland after he and Revesz got together. Elod and Dwyer did not know each other before. They both know Revesz.”
    I wonder where he worked with Tibor Revesz. I presume it was with IRMS.After all it was a well paying job in comparison to lecturing/teaching in Hungary. He travelled to Bolivia with Michael and the other IRMS employees.

    So lets see rthe list reads Tiboe Revesz, Elöd Tóásó, Tamás Nagy ,Dudog Gabor, (All Hungarian) Ivan Pistovcák (Slovakian) Michael Dwyer and probably Daniel Gaspar worked for IRMS.

    Now the Maths and Probability of 7 members of a ten man group working for the same company before travelling to Bolivia are ?? % (and some returned also to work for it)
    Of course the linking factor is Tibor Revesz or is it?

    The shorter question is did any of the remaining 3 work for or have connections with IRMS or its largest client.

    Why is Elöd Tóásó afraid for his family if the Legion are just hikers and not right wing paramilitaries.

    Incidentally only 4 of the group had legion links. Revesz is the only one not dead or imprisoned.


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    B]"Rózsa intended to kill Evo with sniper"[/B] according to JULIO CESAR ALONSO, SPANISH JOURNALIST in todays LaPrensa. “Rózsa intentaría matar a Evo con francotiradores” | LA PRENSA | LA PAZ - BOLIVIA
    Alonso began his career as a photographer in 1969, then ventured into television, he specialised ias a war correspondent. He traveled to report on the revolution in Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Mozambique, Angola, Sudan, Lebanon, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Croatia, Kosovo, Congo and other war zones.
    He is in Bolivia to give a seminar on Journalism in Conflict from an Anti War viewpoint.
    Who is Rózsa and how do you know him?

    -It was pretty damning. I knew him for over 16 years meeting him for the first time in the revolution of Albania as a journalist. I remember an incident that suprised all the journalists and expelled him from the hotel by a scandal that was never clarified by a child who had symptoms of sexual abuse and for having weapons in his room, he was a pedophile. At that time (Rózsa) worked for the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia. He reappeared in the war in Croatia in 1990.
    There was a group of journalists that we called the "Tribe" and covered all the conflicts and Eduardo was among the last to arrive, but it lasted a short time since he then became a soldier in Croatia, more than a soldier he created a group of mercenaries. Filmed at the time as the Battalion Rózsa International, but we believed that it was funded by members of Opus Dei and the extreme right in Europe.
    What knowledge have you of the plan Eduardo Rózsa in Bolivia?
    -- Of how it has acted on other places and the formation of its battalions, Rózsa was preparing a civil war, which would then lead to a war of long duration or division of a part of Bolivia. The European armaments companies should be asked what they know here. What was developing was a war of such magnitude as could be compared to a war between Bolivia and Chile, or Bolivia and Paraguay.
    What was the purpose of the civil war in Bolivia?
    — First, make a business, controlling energy sources and create a new country.. The strategy he used was the same as that used for creating the republic of Kosovo
    Was there a plan for assassination?
    —I think after a moment Evo became a target for Rózsa set up as a personal goal: He knew that if he killed him he would pass into history as the Evo assasin. He would try snipers, not explosives or bombs.
    - What kind of weapons were sought to Europe?
    —Guns, RPG armor, an unspecified number of AK-47 that was not to defend a city, but to wage a war, it is estimated that this war would last months and that would cause many casualties. He didnt trust arms that would be got in Bolivia. Also, he always worked with weapons made in Europe, one of the things that Eduardo requires and his inside workings with arms dealers.
    Here (in Bolivia) they have seized several bullets that do not correspond to weapons that have been (in photos and TV), these weapons have to be in anotherplace, this size corresponds to the AK-47.
    - Their financing?
    —To move a group of those, a mercenary charged each more than one thousand euros per month, plus food, lodging and transportation, that means significant money, then had to have an economic support, and money does not come of Europe, because when you hire for a country, get paid in that country.
    - Who hired Rózsa ?
    —. I do not know, but now, that relationship exists (with opposition groups to the current government), it seems that there is.
    A mercenary is hired, and if not met, he was not paid. I think part of that group (of Rózsa) and demanded that his contract is settled or is waiting to charge. Would have been about 15 more, which perhaps are now in Brazil.
    - What did the bombing of the house of Cardinal Terrazas Julia achieve?
    —Just was going to warn and provoke, not to kill
    What is the profile of Rózsa?. When compared with historical figures, as compared with Mussolini and Napoleon, not fighting for ideas, but by money.
    I come to close a chapter. Eduardo Rózsa Flores was a man who organized wars. He has died, Bolivia has waged a war and the world has been spared a few.
    -Why was Elodes Tóásó Mario Tadic, Árpád Magyarosi and Michael Dwyer hired?
    — I think Tóásó for his knowledge, was in charge of communications, to encrypt messages to other countries. Mario Tadic, he knew from the war in Croatia, was the intermediary between Edward and the people who supplied weapons to the Croatian Army. He was with Eduardo the day he killed the journalist Christian Wurtenberg .
    The Irish Dwyer, fired by the structure, is the bodyguard of Eduardo. Magyarosi was a Nazi activist, was one of the best snipers Rózsa had was a very young killerr.
    - Is it true that killed two journalists?

    —One of the journalists, Christian Wurtenberg, who worked for the agency Radio Switzerland, infiltrated the battalion to investigate the financing of mercenary groups, Eduardo finds out and without knowing that I worked with Christian, he said there's a spy in his squad and kill him. He killed him in January 1991, he was tortured and strangled. From here there are two international commissions in which I participated, collect evidence and incriminate him, but Croatia gives protection and eliminates evidence, testimony and Rózsa escapes.
    Then in Bosnia with Tomislav Brigade he took part in the war between Muslims and Croats, then reappeared in Kosovo as the architect of the provocations, then jumps to the war in Angola, through various conflicts in Africa and then appears in Bolivia, was a year that you lose track.
    He also Killed Paul Jenks, English photographer, Eduardo told him that he killed Christian and when you ask what happened at the time of photographing Serb positions, receives a shot in the neck, this coincides with the gun shot from Eduardo.. There are international reports that the accused Rosza.
    Alonso wants Mario Tadic questioned about the murder of his friend Christian Wurtenburg.
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    For a full report on the killing of the 2 journalists read http://serbianlinks.freehosting.net/dogs.html from Searchlight July 1992. Alonso is mentioned in the article.
    MURDER AND DECEPTION
    What was crucial was that it gave an insight into the way in which the gangs of freelance marauders, enlisted by the Croatians to plunge Yugoslavia into bloody civil war, go about their business.

    The British company, about 30 strong, was based in the town of Osijek, which was been the flashpoint for heavy fighting. One of its functions, the programme demonstrated, had been to provoke breaks in the cease fires arranged between the two sides in the conflict, in an attempt to throw the blame for continued shelling and violence on the overwhelmingly Serbian Yugoslav Federal Army.

    These provocations bear the stamp of careful and systematic planning. The documentary proved this beyond doubt with footage showing a team of British and French mercenaries going out to lay explosives charges.

    Radio news reports the next morning then said that "the shelling of Osijek was intense" and was "the worst violation of the cease fire since the current truce went into force."

    The reality, explained the programmes commentary, was something different. The mercenaries had, in fact been in action laying explosives "to decieve the European Community observers who would assume it was the Serbs".

    The British mercenaries are teh kind of people for whom fitting into normal social surroundings is anathema and for whom the mere thought of killing without feeling is attractive. They are the type of men who flocked into Hitler's Waffen-SS legions.
    Sound familiar about the bombing of the Cardinal's House.

    Further info on the Murder of Christian Wurtenburg http://foreignpolicyfocus.blogspot.c...do-flores.html
    During the last week of 1991, Spanish journalist Julio Cesar Alonso came to the headquarters of the “International Brigade” where he ran into his old friend Wurtemberg. Wurtemberg confided in him that he had left the Brigade a few days before and that he intended to return to Switzerland. Several days later, Alonso met with two members of the Brigade — one of them was its commander Flores (rewarded for his merits with Croatian citizenship), in the Zagreb “International” hotel. According to his subsequent testimony, Flores said he had uncovered that a Swiss was “a mole” in the Brigade.

    Since Alonso knew that the only Swiss in the Brigade was his friend Wurtemberg, he hurried to Osijek to warn him. In the Brigade headquarters he met Flores again who told him with a smile: “By the way, we solved the problem of Christian. There is no more the problem of the Swiss.”
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    Does the journalist have any track record ? He doesn't add a lot to what is on this thread.
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    Cathar's translation above of the La Prensa interview with the Spanish journalist Julio Caesar Alonso is certainly most illuminating. Eduardo Rózsa Flores appears to have combined most of the vices in his person, as Alonso now adds child abuse as well as murder to the list of crimes of which he has been accused. Alonso's passing comment on Michael Dwyer is worth examining:

    'El irlandés Dwyer, por la estructura mercenaria, es el guardaespaldas de Eduardo.'

    Which I would have a go at translating: 'The Irishman Dwyer, according to the mercenary structure, is the bodyguard of Eduardo.'

    As I think has been discussed before, bodyguard to Flores appears indeed to have been Dwyer's special role, and his room in the Las Americas Hotel was beside that of his boss as I recall. Apologists for Dwyer would do well to ask themselves what on earth he was doing in the service of such a monster as Flores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Libre View Post
    Cathar's translation above of the La Prensa interview with the Spanish journalist Julio Caesar Alonso is certainly most illuminating. Eduardo Rózsa Flores appears to have combined most of the vices in his person, as Alonso now adds child abuse as well as murder to the list of crimes of which he has been accused. Alonso's passing comment on Michael Dwyer is worth examining:

    'El irlandés Dwyer, por la estructura mercenaria, es el guardaespaldas de Eduardo.'

    Which I would have a go at translating: 'The Irishman Dwyer, according to the mercenary structure, is the bodyguard of Eduardo.'

    As I think has been discussed before, bodyguard to Flores appears indeed to have been Dwyer's special role, and his room in the Las Americas Hotel was beside that of his boss as I recall. Apologists for Dwyer would do well to ask themselves what on earth he was doing in the service of such a monster as Flores.
    I've read it in other artlcles linkd here, that Dwyer was Flores bodyguard. Not a very good one, as it turned out.

    Thanks for the confirmation Cathar and the very interesting material on the provocations against the Serbs. Would you be on form for a separate thread looking at the break up of Yugoslavia ?
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    Source: Agencia Boliviana de Información - ABI
    The Spanish journalist, Julio Cesar Alonso, specializing in situations of armed conflict in Europe over the past 30 years, found that Bolivia was spared a civil war preceded by a wave of terror when the Police broke unanounced last April, in a hotel in Santa Cruz the cell of militia commanded by European Bolivian Croatian Eduardo Rózsa Flores, stopping it before it unleashed a bloodbath in the country.
    Julio Cesar said that Flores
    "had come to degenerate therefore he had become kind of crazy like Mussolini a mixture between Islam and Christianity ", with a pathological obsession for superiority of the white race, a conviction that drove the social Darwinism in Europe, the twentieth century, the genocide of millions of Jews at the hands of the Nazi regime of Adolf Hitler.
    Alonso said that Rózsa Flores sent last March to his comrades in Budapest, two videos that contain information on how he came to Bolivia and whom or who hired him.
    He also reveals that Flores tried to haver him assasinated in Croatia.

    A lot of information in this article Ill post more later. It's too sunny outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Would you be on form for a separate thread looking at the break up of Yugoslavia ?
    Too many friends there. Too many lies told. Certainly wasn't quite as portrayed in the Irish and International Media.
    The worst thugs were the Croats and we're planning to admit them to the EU while they occupy Slovenian territory and are claiming more.
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