Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[Cathar]

Actually, Clifford is an excellent columnist, and took a lot of sh1te from the Ahern attack-dogs like Eoghan Harris for sticking resolutely to the truth about what was revealed at Dublin Castle. His opinion on this matter differs from mine, but his credibility is in no way in question...

Whatever about his credibility in other matters (and I agree he has good credibility) the article totally sidesteps what Dwyer was involved with in Bolivia.

The official version is he was killed in a shoot-out with a unit of the Bolivian army.

He was killed by a police Swat Group - Special Crimes unit. (FELC?)

Dwyer was in the country just six months when he was killed. When he died, he was in the company of some shady characters, but nothing of substance has yet emerged to give credence to the official version of events

The fact that witnesses placed him as accompanying Flores at the bombing of the Cardinal's House shows how actively he was involved in terrorist activities.
The pictures of him with the guns showed the naivety of the group. These people were dangerous to themselves and those around them.
The article was in effect a rebuttal of Andrew Flood's article in indymedia which summarised many of the points raised on this thread.
I didn't agree with everything in that article but Clifford's article was totally lopsided.

Before leaving for Bolivia, he worked briefly for a controversial security firm, IRMS, at the Corrib gas site in Co Mayo. He went to South America with men he met in the company. That connection has made him a handy political tool for some of those protesting at Shell's presence in Erris Head.

He worked for 6 months with them. Admittedly he hadn't the military experience that Revesz and the other IRMS employees (who travelled to Bolivia) had. The fact remains that IRMS are employing mercenary types there with Military and Military Intelligence/Special Ops background there. Michael Dwyer's name is used for recognition purposes because he was Irish and was caught and killed. He certainly wasn't the most dangerous person ever employed in the past or currently there. At least Clifford noted that IRMS are controversial.

I don't buy The Tribune but read it while visiting a Friend. It was a typical O'Reilly media piece essentially Shell/IRMS PR.
I know it was an "Opinion" piece but he could have at least researched pertinent facts before writing it. Most of the info on this thread contains links to original sources which he could have checked.

[Cathar]

La Prensa indicates that Ignacio Villa Vargas alias 'el Viejo', star witness in the Rózsa Flores gang case, has done a runner and is repudiating his testimony. The report also mentions a newly released video showing Eduardo Rózsa Flores, Michael Dwyer, Alejandro Brown and Daniel Gaspar engaged in shooting practice somewhere in Santa Cruz.

The disappearance of the key witness is unusual as he has been charged with terrorist offenses and is effectively on Bail.
His apparent recanting of his sworn testimony which isn't confirmed has more to do with the fact that the prosecutor chose to ignore his testimony when taking a witness statement from a prominent Santa Cruz businessman who was declared innocent of any involvement and threatened to take a libel action against him.
His evidence is now only used by the prosecution when there was other corroborating evidence.
The computer/phone/banking etc. evidence has become more important as the investigation continues.
What will be crucial to our understanding of what actually went on will be the jurisdiction where the investigation and trial will eventually take place.
If the Supreme court moves it to Santa Cruz the full facts will never be known, as the principal figures behind the group are prominent lawyers, businessmen and civic leaders.
Flores was a Rogue Bull and utilised these people to his own (CIA?) agenda which was to foment Civil War and Balkanisation.

[ON THE ONE ROAD]

no credit for the people on this thread?

weak he used the indymedia summery subtley to dismiss the story in the same manner he critises the indymedia link for being sugestive.

liked cliford myself. disapointed here. think i've seen him correct himself on other issues so may be worth contacting.

[El Libre]

Michael Clifford's article in today's Sunday Tribune criticises those who believe that Michael Dwyer's membership of an armed gang in Bolivia indicates that he was a mercenary, and who persist in referring to his work for IRMS on behalf of Shell in Mayo. Clifford's article is accompanied by a version of the following photograph:

It would have been much harder for Clifford to make his case had a photograph such as the following accompanied his article:

Clifford is clearly reacting primarily to the article 'Shadow over Erris: Shell, IRMS and Bolivia', and one wonders if the following image illustrating changes on IRMS's website (derived from our work here) aroused his journalistic curiosity:

Although IRMS representatives are clearly actively briefing journalists in order to explain away embarrassing questions arising from Dwyer's death, the company's website is still offline three months after his death.

[toxic avenger]

As I said before, Clifford is a very astute and usually spot-on commentator. I disagree with him on Lisbon (he's a yesser), and I disagree with him on this (where once I agreed). He has possibly, reading between the lines of the article, spent some time with the Dwyer family or others close to him, or at least spoken to them. I suspect he is less aware of the nature of Bolivian politics, in particular Santa Cruz politics, and just how impossible it is for someone to spend six months there in the company of heavily politicised and armed men and not be aware of the score. The plight of the native Amerindians in that area, to this day, resembles something from the middle ages. The people currrently responsible for maintaining that plight are some of the nastiest, most disgusting specimens to exist on the continent since the Nazis arrived en masse in Latin America. I would caution Mick Clifford, whom I admire greatly, to consider the probability that the man must have known about the reality of life in Santa Cruz, and must have known what these people he hung around with intended. The lengths he would have had to have gone to to avoid knowing would have had to have been Herculean, to say the least. I say this as someone with no particular axe to grind about Rossport (save despising Shell for what they have done in Ogoni Nigeria).

[Civic_critic2]

I was in Walter's in Dún Laoghaire the other night and the bouncers there are now walking around the place with 'I-RMS' embroidered in unmissable yellow letters on their ties.

The PR machine has swung into action and seems to utilising the military doctrine that when attacked you do the one thing the enemy doesn't expect - instead of running for cover you run straight at them. I-RMS and the larger conglomerate of interests of which they are a part seem to have decided that the way to deal with this minor irritant of 'citizen jounalism' is to come more fully into the open in all sorts of unexpected ways - like branding their bouncers across the land - while simulatneously refusing to answer any questions that the more informed know they need to answer. And I-RMS would not choose such a strategy if they weren't completely sure, by explicit agreement I have little doubt, that the media would be controlled in their favour.

We are witnessing a truly seminal battle between media corruption and citizen journalism. I trust that those who bovinely believe the majority of what they are fed are taking note of just how seriously dangerous the control of the media in this country is. Perhaps they should apply their new-found epiphanies in this matter retrospectively to what they've been fed on all sorts of issues over the last 40 years.

[toxic avenger]

I was in Walter's in Dún Laoghaire the other night and the bouncers there are now walking around the place with 'I-RMS' embroidered in unmissable yellow letters on their ties.

The PR machine has swung into action and seems to utilising the military doctrine that when attacked you do the one thing the enemy doesn't expect - instead of running for cover you run straight at them. I-RMS and the larger conglomerate of interests of which they are a part seem to have decided that the way to deal with this minor irritant of 'citizen jounalism' is to come more fully into the open in all sorts of unexpected ways - like branding their bouncers across the land - while simulatneously refusing to answer any questions that the more informed know they need to answer. And I-RMS would not choose such a strategy if they weren't completely sure, by explicit agreement I have little doubt, that the media would be controlled in their favour.

We are witnessing a truly seminal battle between media corruption and citizen journalism. I trust that those who bovinely believe the majority of what they are fed are taking note of just how seriously dangerous the control of the media in this country is. Perhaps they should apply their new-found epiphanies in this matter retrospectively to what they've been fed on all sorts of issues over the last 40 years.

There was a phrase for this which was applied first to Liam Lawlor at the Tribunal, constantly speaking but saying nothing, always there but never there. Ahern became a disciple when it was his turn. The phrase was 'hiding in full view'...

[El Libre]

As Michael Clifford of the Sunday Tribune is clearly unimpressed by claims here that Michael Dwyer's friends in the Szekler Legion (but not necessarily all Szeklers) are fascist, he might take a look at some of Tibor 'Photosniper' Revesz's webpages still online, such as this one. Here are some cheeful images on the page, with friend Tibor recognisable in the second:

The following is a rough Google translation of some of the Romanian text, and the confusion and contradictions therein do not seem to be all down to mistranslation:

'Secuiasca Legion (Legion Siculis) is a "paramilitary", "central" type "order is executed, not talk" and its members according to organizational status, "should also assume the obligations arising from the nature of paramilitary organization. Secuiasca Legion was founded in 2002 in the town Palhalma in Hungary. Legion was created under Article 63 of the Constitution of Hungary, on the right to freedom of association, of which all individuals can be used without violating the legal regulations. Organization declared apolitical. According to the Statute, the organization name is "Szekely Legio or Siculis Legion" and its place is the Republic of Hungary and in case of need and outside this country. Legion emblem is Secuiesti heraldic elements of a rifle with bayonet stuck into the top of a space created by the six-wire flower corner of (a national symbol in Szekely Land). Legion Secuiasca is a sovereign, based on the defense forces citizens through volunteering. Legion is an organization "independent, democratic, does not serve political purposes, its structure is based on the centralization of military and do anything to defend Szekely Land, democracy, justice, freedom and rule of law faurirea. Members "can only be people who attest secuiasca origin, they are compelled to satisfy a period of probation, while participating actively in the theoretical and military training. Legion funds come from contributions of members of simpatizantilor donations, from private and public foundations in Hungary, the income obtained from the following shows, the profits obtained from various business services.' (end)

Finally, there is a mention in the article of Eduardo Rozsa Flores, for your information Mr Clifford, a communist turned fascist and the leader of the armed gang in which Michael Dwyer was serving at the time of his death in Bolivia:

'Among the notable members of the paramilitary groups is Eduardo Rosza Flores, half Hungarian, half Bolivian, an interpreter of Spanish for Carlos the Jackal, the dreaded terrorist, when he was in Hungary.' (end)

[toxic avenger]

Village magazine has a brief mention of IRMS this month (has it gone bi-monthly? It's the 'July/August edition'), having a go at the non-enforcement of identification badges in relation to 'dodgy' private security companies. Brief mention of Dwyer, lots about Rossport again, including an interview with Pat O'Donnell by Miriam Cotton, plus a pop at the Gardai for their (to put it politely) 'media management'...

[Set Straight]

I read that article in the Tribune yesterday, at least one reporter has their head screwed on.

"Nice" example of the shell protesters doing there thing was in Eyre square a few weeks back, well done lads!

Way too many Charlie Browns on this site.

And oh my, who the hell put the tags on for these pages, random as hell
"[COLOR="Red"]bolivia, dwyer, enslaved amerindians, george lee, libertas, morales, nazi ustashe filth[/COLOR]" You have issues mate!!

PS. No point cross examining my posts, because I don't care about you.