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Thread: Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

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    I think all govs egg on and faciltate cells to improve their terrorist fighting appearance, maybe its the only way to get a good case,but its very dodgey, i think i'd prefer bombs and assaults not to go off
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    THese activities are designed at times to justify restriction of civil rights/heavy policing and at other times to destabilise. The evidence would suggest the latter in Santa Cruz. The Government is going hard and heavy but are fighting for the survival of their country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seán E. Ryan View Post

    A number of things occur to me from this.
    ii. Because the "Hungarian" was employed by IRMS up until a few weeks ago, it becomes critical that IRMS offers documentary proof that Mr Dwyer had ceased his employment before setting off for Bolivia.
    [COLOR=Red]Michael Dwyer was said to have ceased employment on the 20th October (immediately prior to his trip)[/COLOR]

    iii. The paper trail, or rather the money trail, with regard to Dwyer needs to be investigated. Who paid him and his expenses. And who actually parted with the money to do so.

    iv. What was the exact nature of the course that the fascists (exclusively) allegedly went to Bolivia to attend. What was its title and who organised it. More importantly did IRMS have anything to do with organising or advertising it. [COLOR=Red]There was no course it was a cover story to keep people at home happy[/COLOR]

    v. Why did the fascists stop off in Spain? [COLOR=Red]Best place for flights to Bolivia[/COLOR] - [COLOR=Red]these tickets were purchased in Bolivia[/COLOR]

    Ffs, why are the media not laying IRMS bare at this stage? Fair enough, they usually require spoonfeeding anyway, but this is absurd.[COLOR=Red]INTEL INTEL INTEL[/COLOR] [COLOR=Red]Jim Farrell is the person to watch[/COLOR]
    From the IRMS website:
    Jim is a former Regimental Sergeant Major with the Irish army's special forces unit, Army Ranger Wing, specialising in Anti-Terrorist Intervention. Jim had direct responsibility for all training and operational matters. He organised, coordinated and participated in intensive cross-training with other European army special forces units in Germany, France, Holland and Sweden. He has served overseas in the Lebanon, [COLOR=Red]Iraq[/COLOR], East Timor and in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
    As a former Special Forces Instructor, Jim brings undeniable expertise to many of our security risk sectors
    IRMS is in existance less than 5 years Its name is copied from International RMS, an Iraqi contractorand private security contractor.

    Russian intelligence sources were the people who suggested a CIA connection to the company. Im doubtful about this but it shouldnt be ruled out.

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    As Ireland's premier hostage rescue unit, operators from the ARW were deployed to Iraq alongside Arabic-speaking members of G2 (the military intelligence branch of the Irish military), after Irish journalist Rory Carroll was abducted in 2005. The Rangers were charged with liaison with U.S. Special Operations Forces in regard to a possible rescue operation, and to provide security to the Irish Government representatives who were attempting to negotiate his release. Their assistance was not required however, as Mr. Carroll was released a short time later
    Among the places Irish Army Rangers Training is carried out on is gas and oil rigs off Ireland's Atlantic coast, Great place for a trainer to make contact with Shell E&P
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    Thanks for that Cathar.

    Regarding the security course being a cover story: I can see why this is probably the case but my instinct says that it needs looking into. A lot of people went to Bolivia and most of them returned. That's a lot of investment just to establish a cover story on behalf of the few that remained. Whilst it's very possible that it is a cover story and that the real reason was the offering of a well paid merc job, that turned out to be an effort run by gobshítes, I think it's an avenue that still needs investigating. It might well turn up very valuable information. With so many people this is an elaborate and complex cover story to arrange and I think it reasonable to believe that at least some of those who went to Bolivia might have themselves believed it, if only to make the cover all the more solid. This is the obvious and big lie in the whole sordid affair, that is readily identifiable as a lie. I'd like to know who the primal liar in this scenario is and I'd like to see all the material in print, if any, concocted to promote it.

    I'd read Jim Farrell's profile before and agree that he needs to be looked at in detail. I'd not be as doubtful as yourself about the CIA's alleged connection to this. This is classic smoke and mirrors stuff - right up their street. Indeed the CIA have big connections with Blackwater, the biggest merc outfit in Iraq and it strikes me as unbelievable that they'd not have similar input into other merc outfits operating in Iraq and everywhere else. Tis the way of the future afterall; fight your wars with private armies - gives you the same plausible deniability you have with your intelligence operations. As an added benefit, it's much harder to be accused of war crimes when your soldiers cannot be said to be following your orders. That said, I don't see any CIA connection as being top of the priorities list at this stage. Such connections will emerge or won't emerge after IRMS are opened up for an examination.

    Here's a link that gives an idea as to how important the CIA thinks private armies are: Revolving Door to Blackwater Causes Alarm at CIA, By Ken Silverstein (Harper's Magazine)

    A number of senior CIA and Pentagon officials have taken top jobs at Blackwater, including firm vice chairman Cofer Black, who was the Bush Administration's top counterterrorism official at the time of the 9/11 attacks (and who famously said in 2002, “There was before 9/11 and after 9/11. After 9/11, the gloves came off.”) Robert Young Pelton, author of the new book, Licensed to Kill , says that an early Blackwater contract—a secret no-bid $5.4 million deal with the CIA—came in 2002 after Prince placed a call to Buzzy Krongard, who was then the CIA's executive director.
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    Just saw your edit Cathar. I'd not come across that before. Holy Sh*t.

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    About one third of CIA posts are "contracted out".

    The Rangers got their initial training in the US. These things are formative.

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    Seán E. Ryan there is no evidence that 18 travelled to Bolivia. The only definite number is 10. 18 as far as I recall is Revesz's maximum/prefered class size. There appears to have been a class in December at a farmhouse of 1 weeks duration but I think that also included some Bolivians.
    Remember that at least 6 of the ten worked in security in Ireland- probably for IRMS. 2 left in March, one of whom is definitely in Hungary.
    Are there more fugitives than Tibor Revesz in Ireland?
    My impression is also that IRMS is effectively a privatised Garda operation in Mayo. Im sure some of the senior IRMS people have a C3 or sigint background which would mean that the also carry US security clearances.
    Their man in Kenya may also have MI6 connections.
    Its a bit of a hornets nest that neither the media or Gardai will disturb.

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    It is a possibility that those who returned did so because they were not immediately needed and were just there to be introduced to the situation, given the lie of the land and so forth, to be recalled when necessary.

    On the other hand there is the story of Flores falling out with two and allegedly saying that two bullets would be cheaper than two tickets back.

    It is all still really murky. Some things would be clarified if those who came back would come forward and make statements. But for whatever reasons no one is saying anything.

    IRMS is not saying anything either ... which one would consider strange for a supposedly reputable security company. Surely if they were all legit they would be in a hurry to get things cleared up and any suspicions about a possible role on their part removed. Wouldn't they be putting the facts of their association with Tibor and the others on the table if there was nothing to hide?
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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    I hadn't seen this one of Tibor before.
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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    Searches online seem to be throwing up links between Tibor and the Hungarian Guard (neo-fascist group). Does anyone have any further info regarding this ?

    The poor sausage must have been lonely around Christmas/New Year because on December 28 he joined some sort of Hungarian Equestrian Board using the name photosniper, giving his location as Ireland and his occupation as a soldier!

    "Hi to everyone on the board.

    Several years ago, only ride occasionally, but is now ripe for the idea is to buy a horse for myself. So far, quite "itinerant life lived, and there was no opportunity to seriously address the lótartással. I had to get other horses. First, the távlovaglás the lovastúra and the care and lovasíjászat Bábolna is your favorite kind of Arabic, ie the shagya.

    For much of me."

    Ahhhh....
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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    Links between Flores and Tibor are not new. The following appears to have been posted on line in 2007:

    "A paramilitary group in Hungary to train Csíki havasokban. The Szekler Legion organization shall receive a minimum of two times to its (Covasna and Harghita county) area. The Légióból from February 1, according to information from several members of the organization out of the territory Ciuc Mountains, Harghita-bath near the 2007-th year's winter training. Young members of the organization's express purpose "Szeklerland protection, democracy, justice, protection of freedom and the rule of law was founded. In practice, the Legion members, various technical and strategic advisors will be invited to participate, typically for such organizations. Szekler a large part of the Legion members, Romanian citizen, young Hungarian and Hungarian members of the extreme right-wing organizations. These groups include Eduardo Rózsa-Flores, half English, half-Bolivian, who is none other than the Spanish "Jackal Carlos' interpretation of the era, when Hungary was a dreaded terrorist (bujdosott).

    (Survival) The Hungarian survivors (Survival)

    Substantial Hungarian citizens and Hungarian ethnic groups in Romania and survival practices of war, in harsh conditions, the Harghita forests and plateaux. The nation's security breach in addition to such activities pose a threat to the tourists, such as neighborhood residents. The Internet is an effective communication tool for paramilitary székelyeknek. A Hungarian Survival portál, amelynek több mint 5000 tagja van – legtöbbjük a Magyar Hadseregből és az Idegen Légióból - harcol a félkatonai szervezetben. Survival of the Hungarian site, in which more than 5,000 members - most of them in the Hungarian army and the Foreign Légióból - fighting the paramilitary organization. In practice, this goal has become the inter nurtures hatred. Established a well-spring in Romania, the nationalist and separatist ideas building. Tibor Révész (Photosniper) site is coordinated by a former idegenlégiós and Csurgó Alexander (Guerilla) ideological and practical training in preparation for the physical and policy. On the other hand, produce images in the Harghita camps to prepare for. "Simca" Simonics Zsolt forum entrant is responsible for sorting, preserving the secrecy and confidentiality of entry. Katona out of the photos presented "Solda" Gabor késharc a specialist who is a survivor in the Scottish mountains edződött school. You will still beside beside "Hassan" John Horvath, the Hungarian Army was the officer, who are both old soldiers, who are drilled in Serbia in the past ... This is the latest information from the Hungarian army, and some of this information is particularly important information. It shares the experience of years spent in uniform with all who shared their ideology. Wide range of knowledge of pyrotechnics, explosive devices can easily be drawn up.

    Ideologist of the Legion, was a translator, Carlos Jackal

    Horváth, "Bezbol" Tamás Révész in specialized fields and in all conditions. They are the neo-Nazi group Blood and Honor. For example, participated in the Honor Day, a Nazi festival, with Budapest, the second world war by the Germans to remember megvédéséről. Horváth nerves and nerve edzette fighting Israeli desert desert fighting. He is the ideological link to the English site of Survival and Székely (Siculis Legion). Révész information websites, and articles of interest and hit elvtársától, Eduardo Rose, Florestől, who is the "Guard of Workers' senior officer in the Hungarian organization (the National team the same organization). Flores half Hungarian, half-Bolivian, is none other than Carlos, the Spanish-speaking tomlmácsa from the time when the notorious terrorist active in Hungary. Plus, the Balkan conflicts of the past hireling, though, is when a paramilitary officer was a body. After the war, specializes in the distribution of nationalist ideas, all of us who believe in these ideas. AThe full members of paramilitary organizations, and there is a varied arsenal. Starting with the latest and the most uniform fegyvertípusoktól to the latest means of communication. E Such a warehouse, which is available at any time, Dunaújváros, where the Szekler air, as a legal person registered in the Hungarian authorities.
    The paramilitánsok expect to exit in a minibus zone is used, a well-equipped military. It is important to link with the Csíkszereda, Covasna and Székelyudvarhely ultranationalist magyarjaival. Edzenek with a minimum of twice a year, winter and summer, the Harghita mountain. Such a camp just the other day too.

    "In order to implement, not talk!"

    The Szekler Legion (Legion Siculis) is a centralized type of paramilitary organization in which the command should be implemented, not to talk, members of the organization's obligations in accordance with the need to take
    The Szekler Legion was founded in 2002-the Hungarian Pélhalma room. The air of the Hungarian Constitution 63rd cikkelye alapján hozták létre, a szabad társulásra való tekintettel, amely minden fizikai személyre érvényes, a törvények betartása mellett. was established on the basis of article, with regard to freedom of association, which is valid for any physical person, in compliance with the law. The organization itself says apolitical. The founding of the organization's name Szekler Legion (Legion Siculis). Activities of the territory of Hungary does, if necessary, outside its borders as well. Szekler Legion of the heraldic coat of arms of the elements of a rifle-bajonet beleszúrva surrounded by six mountain gyopárral area (alpine cottonweed Szeklerland national symbols). Szekler the sovereign body of the Legion, voluntary and self-defense.

    . The Legion "independent, democratic, does not serve the political objectives, the military structure is based on centralization, and take everything from Szeklerland megvédéséért ... democracy, justice, freedom and the rule of law was founded."
    . Its members' Szekler origin may be, and shall undertake to participate actively in the theoretical and practical felkészítőkön. Legion of the material basis for membership fee, gifts, and alapítványokból, while income from events and various business and service activities of the profits are.

    Commander of the Legion of eight classes are

    The Legion 31-year head teacher, in a stormy prospects. The chief Tibor Révész, born in 1976 in Sf. június 25-én. June 25. Révész tmore than a decade left Romania. At the time, managed to obtain a certificate of explosives production and hatástalanításáról. Hungarian judo champion was, however, and after the rescue kutyaidomítás specialist as well. Birthplace of the primary school was carried out autószerelőnek will be studied, but it's not finished. Moving to Hungary after the security guard dog training course (1994), and then kutyaidomító course (1996) carried out.. He participated in a special course (1998)., And 2000-was carried out on a battlefield first-aid courses. "
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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