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Thread: Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

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    IRMS and Foireann Cahil

    While the Foirean Cahil website has been removed, elements remain in Google cache, including a notice to members concerning a course issued last January: Close Protection Course by I-RMS | Foireann Cahil | Website
    The prospectus indicates inclusion of 'Combat Pistol Techniques', with details of other courses offering more advanced weapons training. There is a €400 discount of the course fee of €2,950 for IRMS employees. A session was due to be held from 26 March to 26 April, and of course Michael Dwyer and associates were killed in Bolivia on 16 April. An e-mail link shows the contact person as david.carroll@i-rms.com <david.carroll@i-rms.com> and the subject heading as 'Alpha CP Course - cahil.tk'. The course has UK City and Guilds and Irish FETAC accreditation. All students are required to have a Private Security Authority licence, but a recent Irish Examiner article has revealed that this body has not carried out thorough background checks on a third of the 22,037 people to whom it has issued licences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Libre View Post
    As indicated by Mattheil, we now have a copy of Michael Dwyer's autopsy report online at Protocolo de autopsia mdico legal de Dwyer Michael Martin : ErnestoJustiniano.org The autopsy was carried out in Santa Cruz by the Instituto de Investigaciones Forenses in Santa Cruz on 16 April 2009 at 22.30. As the text is not the clearest I have blown up the following key extract:



    My translation, subject to correction, is as follows:

    'Medico-legal considerations

    The body was identified as that of Dwyer Michael Martin, whose bodily signs permitted the establishment of a time of death between 15 and 17 hours [ago] approximately.

    It has been established that there were six bullet impacts from a firearm in various parts of the body, predominantly in the thorax [chest], having basically compromised? both lungs, where there are extensive lacerations causing? a pattern of acute blood loss.

    There has not been found in any of the bullet entrance holes signs of gun residue? and/or smoke?, indicating that the shooting occurred at a distance of more than 50cm.

    It has not been possible to collect bullets or fragments of same, for want of X-ray equipment.

    Conclusions

    1 Cause of death
    a Hypovolemic shock (acute blood loss)
    b Multiple wounds in the chest caused by firearm bullets'

    (End of translation)

    I was puzzled by reports that the subsequent Irish autopsy had established that death was caused by a single gunshot, as the photograph of Dwyer's body to my eyes indicated more than one wound in the chest area. There are indeed grounds to suspect a 'shoot to kill' policy, but in fairness the Bolivian authorities were not to know Dwyer was a gun nut with no proper military training. Of course Eduardo Rosza Flores and other members of the group in the Las Americas Hotel with military training were a different proposition and Dwyer's association with them was little short of suicidal.

    IRMS's website is still down, but the firm has a responsibility to tell the world more about its employment on the Shell gas project in Mayo of Dwyer, Tibor Revesz and other Szekler Legion members, whether Dwyer in particular received weapons training on IRMS courses, whether the firm has or had contracts in Bolivia or knew of the use of the security team name Foireann Cahil for paramilitary exercises and recruitment to Eduardo Rosza Flores's brigade.
    Okies ... and kudos to all of the folk on here so far who have attempted to translate cos that has added greatly to this Thread and without which things would be even "murkier"

    (Subject to your translation being largely correct and tbh it sounds to me from what I'm reading like it's generally pretty cool)

    1. There were 6 bullet impacts in various parts of the body and predominantly in the chest area. That would sound in the normal scheme of things that such action was with the intention of "terminating" such person.

    2. The shooting occurred at a distance of more than 50cm .... 60 cm is about 2 foot. This is a very relevant point. Just how far away was the shooting which led to death occurring? Was is just over 50cm (under 2 foot) or 100cm (3 1/2 foot) or what was it? Was it THAT close as in approx 2 ft or from quite a further distance away?

    " .... shooting occurred at a distance of more than 50cm" is desperately vague. That could hypothetically be anything from shooting at someone in a situation from 3/4 feet inside a room, or just outside the door, or a sniper shot issuing from across the street. That info is no use at all.

    Let's just say that the shooting occurred at a distance of more than 50cm but would still have been within feet of Dwyer. Why were there 6 bullet impacts? On this one the theories are endless - the following are selective and hypothetical;

    1. The shooter simply burst into the room and peppered Dwyer.
    2. Dwyer took "action" which obliged the shooter to pepper him at close range.

    It doesn't help at all (if memory serves me correctly) that the Irish State Pathologist was unable to ascertain whether Dwyer had held and fired a firearm at the time due to the advanced decomposed state of the body upon examination

    Moving on re the translation;

    "It has not been possible to collect bullets or fragments of same, for want of X-ray equipment."

    Wtf is this .... no X-ray equipment available at the time of examination by the Authorities? I'm guessing it should mean no further evidence was ascertainable with regard to examination of the scene due to the unavailabilty of "x-ray" equipment at the time

    And the "Conclusions"

    "Multiple wounds in the chest caused by firearm bullets" .... sounds to me like that's a reasonable close up affair .... which leads on to 2 scenarios ... aka 1. Dwyer was peppered or 2. Dwyer put up resistance and was peppered

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    One addendum to El Libre's translation:

    The Bolivian Autopsy Report established that Michael Dwyer was shot 6 times at chest level from behind, with three frontal exit wounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian Hermit Monk View Post
    One addendum to El Libre's translation:

    The Bolivian Autopsy Report established that Michael Dwyer was shot 6 times at chest level from behind, with three frontal exit wounds.
    Are you getting that from the report posted above because I cannot see where it indicates that he was shot from behind or that all six wounds were at chest level ...

    Please clarify.
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Are you getting that from the report posted above because I cannot see where it indicates that he was shot from behind or that all six wounds were at chest level ...

    Please clarify.
    You'll find it in the section preceding the one translated by El Libre:



    "Trayecto de proyectiles: De atrás hacia delante, ligeramente de abajo hacia arriba, con 3 orificios de salida anterior."

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    Trajectory of bullets: From the back towards the front, slightly from below upwards, with three frontal exit wounds.


    In the Report, 'tórax' refers to the thoracic region, rather than simply 'the chest', indicating that all six entry wounds were at chest level.
    Last edited by Utopian Hermit Monk; 14th May 2009 at 03:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Libre View Post
    While the Foirean Cahil website has been removed, elements remain in Google cache, including a notice to members concerning a course issued last January: Close Protection Course by I-RMS | Foireann Cahil | Website
    The prospectus indicates inclusion of 'Combat Pistol Techniques', with details of other courses offering more advanced weapons training. There is a €400 discount of the course fee of €2,950 for IRMS employees. A session was due to be held from 26 March to 26 April, and of course Michael Dwyer and associates were killed in Bolivia on 16 April. An e-mail link shows the contact person as david.carroll@i-rms.com <david.carroll@i-rms.com> and the subject heading as 'Alpha CP Course - cahil.tk'. The course has UK City and Guilds and Irish FETAC accreditation. All students are required to have a Private Security Authority licence, but a recent Irish Examiner article has revealed that this body has not carried out thorough background checks on a third of the 22,037 people to whom it has issued licences.
    Currently I-RMS is at the fore front in the development of customised specialist training teams for all levels and areas of training. With I-RMS management and staff having Special Forces backgrounds I-RMS is in a unique position to provide training at the highest level for both governmental and non governmental agencies. All training packages have a degree of flexibility and can be adapted to suit individual clients needs ; some of the areas covered consist of:

    * Close Protection Teams – For Diplomatic & Governmental Organisations
    * Protective Security Detail
    * Anti Terrorism
    * Security & Hostile Awareness Training
    * Response Units
    * Maritime Security Awareness Training
    * Maritime Security Teams
    * Surveillance & Counter Surveillance
    * Hostile Environment Training

    INSTRUCTORS

    Our instructors are some of the best in the world with all having special forces back grounds or extensive experience in executive close protection and protection in hostile regions.
    "We are an International Company with Global Vision".

    Does anyone know if the "course" in Bolivia was an I-RMS course or if Tibor Revesz is/was an I-RMS instructor? They had organised courses in Hungary, yes?

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    From what I remember of the photos of Dwyer's body, there appeared to be one exit wound in the middle of his chest. I don't recall seeing any other wounds. Is there a weapon that would put six bullets through someone that neatly?

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    rozsa flores el che and so on

    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Why all the ant-Che symbols on his blog then?
    Who recruited Rozsa Flores for the job?
    Don't forget that this subject (in the sens that this term means for psychoanalytic portrait) was Opus Dei member, at the same time Jewish, then from 1994, Muslim. It was bisexual, kleptomaniac, and so on. He was everything and its contrary at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainstream View Post
    Don't forget that this subject (in the sens that this term means for psychoanalytic portrait) was Opus Dei member, at the same time Jewish, then from 1994, Muslim. It was bisexual, kleptomaniac, and so on. He was everything and its contrary at the same time.
    I've noted RFs contradictions - I don't know whether they are his personality or whether he was an agent looking to make a lot of connections. Merle has pointed out that modern facists are cloaking themselves in a mixed bag of anarchist symbols.

    Simplest thing is to judge people by their actions rather than their badges. His actions by and large to the benefit of US geopolitical strategy - division of Yugoslavia, splitting up Bolivia.

    He was a Young Communist leader in his school. I reckon that was probably not a popular line to take in his generation: it shows an opportunistic attraction to power perhaps.

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    [QUOTE=Utopian Hermit Monk;1653697]You'll find it in the section preceding the one translated by El Libre:



    "Trayecto de proyectiles: De atrás hacia delante, ligeramente de abajo hacia arriba, con 3 orificios de salida anterior."

    =

    Trajectory of bullets: From the back towards the front, slightly from below upwards, with three frontal exit wounds.

    I wonder if anyone could contact the Irish State Pathologist to get clarification on the intent of the statement that M Dwyer was 'killed' by a single gunshot - (this is what I read in the papers), but was unclear as to how many bullets 'hit' him.

    Surely someone in the Irish press would note the apparent discrepancy between 6 shots from behind with 3 exit wounds, and 'killed by a single gunshot' and question it.

    If I were to believe all the CSI we see on tv these days, even with an advanced level of decomposition, shouldn't it be possible to distinguish a single wound and 6 distinct shots with three frontal exit wounds?

    Couple of other questions:
    1. would the irish pathologist have anything to gain by misstating his findings - short by 5 bullets?
    (doubtful...)

    2. would whomever in Bolivia performed the autopsy gain from overstating the number of bullets?
    (unclear, but what confuses me is if they were going to fudge the truth, why would they claim he had been shot at least 3 times in the back... implies he was either executed, or tried to make a break for it and was shot in the back)

    Am still baffled by the whole thing. : )

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