Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[merle haggard]

Irish independent:
Dwyer didn't leave room on day of attack -- hotel manager - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie



I see allot of you are quick to believe in what the tabloids ( which have lovely fiction tales that appear to be clearly working into selling to some questionably motivated opinionated people on this site)

Right now i can back up some of what set straight was saying, the so called "nazi tribute" was a group of former colleagues (no not nazis, mercs what ever you like to call them) that had arrived late for the funeral. When they went to the grave photographers started running towards them, so they quickly left (which only made them look like idiots) but they thought it would of been the best thing to do at the time.

As regards to what mike was at over there you don't know and you cant say, right now none of us can. i think its fair to say and quite irrefutable that ALLOT of lies, allegations and tall tales have come out about the circumstances of the death of mike and the other men.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and i completely respect that, however some peoples comments on this site is just sick and uncalled for. No doubt the circumstances of mikes involvement with the other men in Bolivia is questionable but you don't know the facts. Allot of you appear to be showing the same traits of Evo Morals himself by coming up with their own opinions and not even bothering to hear or take in what the opposition says, its your way or the highway, which has gotten mike killed in the first place. Some people clearly appear to condone this kind of action by governments. If this had happened in Ireland guilty or not there would be absolute outrage with the way things were handled. That is why i haven't even bothered looking at this site recently. In fact i think this post is going to fall on deaf ears (blind eyes) anyways but i just thought i would give it one last shot.

I will not give up on mike, and neither will his friends. hopefully the next few weeks will be able to shed some more light on the TRUTH AND FACTS of this horrible situation.

Allot of posters on this site are acting very immature and childish by picking on each other individually. This is not politics in action on this site this is childish slander at its sickest and some people just need to grow up.

Over the last few weeks i have learned that you cannot believe what you hear in the media these days, i just hope the investigations manage to paint a clear picture to us all when all this is done and over with, weeks /months/ years down the line.

My thoughts and sympathy extends out to the innocent family of mike, what they are going through is horrible and very unfortunate.

innocent until PROVEN guilty

no proof( proof and evidence needs to be looked up on the dictionary and the definitions need to be reminded to some people on this site) no guilt.



R.I.P. mike

I dont know whether your a male or a female today but the issue of whether your nazi mate was up to no good or not has been long settled so give it up . He is no longer the issue , hes done and dusted . His hungarian nazi mates from Rossport can delete their bebos as much as they want but the evidence of what they were and are and who hired them to work in Ireland and abroad is now in the public domain and it will be rigourously followed up and exposed further . The Irish people will be let know precisely who these people are , who they work for and what they are about .
.His bosses and the funding are now the issue and im quite sure the phones , the money , the computers , the witnesses , the captured prisoners and the surveillance will all leave a very interesting trail .

[pyroger101]

I dont know whether your a male or a female today but the issue of whether your nazi mate was up to no good or not has been long settled so give it up . He is no longer the issue , hes done and dusted . His hungarian nazi mates from Rossport can delete their bebos as much as they want but the evidence of what they were and are and who hired them to work in Ireland and abroad is now in the public domain and it will be rigourously followed up and exposed further . The Irish people will be let know precisely who these people are , who they work for and what they are about .
.His bosses and the funding are now the issue and im quite sure the phones , the money , the computers , the witnesses , the captured prisoners and the surveillance will all leave a very interesting trail .

Thanks for backing up what i said by replying with that. You are exactly what i was talking about and that last comment is just proof of that. He is far from done and dusted, who are you to dictate what is what, are you a dictator?

i surely hope you never become a juror some day, all you will do is read which ever news papers have the nicest most colourful pictures and believe what you see, or what you want to believe.

You are either very gullible or.... well im just not going to stoop to your level

good bye



update... it all makes sense now, merle haggard and mr crowly, wonder who else... i see your making this about sides and not facts:
http://www.politics.ie/groups/radical-left.html
your part of this group yes?

so if this was the other way around and you believed mike was attacking a rightest gov... you would be on his side then i guess.

You keep defending your team so like a good supporter.

[Gruffalo]

Thanks for backing up what i said by replying with that. You are exactly what i was talking about and that last comment is just proof of that. He is far from done and dusted, who are you to dictate what is what, are you a dictator?

i surely hope you never become a juror some day, all you will do is read which ever news papers have the nicest most colourful pictures and believe what you see, or what you want to believe.

You are either very gullible or.... well im just not going to stoop to your level

good bye



update... it all makes sense now, merle haggard and mr crowly, wonder who else... i see your making this about sides and not facts:
http://www.politics.ie/groups/radical-left.html
your part of this group yes?

so if this was the other way around and you believed mike was attacking a rightest gov... you would be on his side then i guess.

You keep defending your team so like a good supporter.

You are an idiot.

I notice how you never commented when the same hotel manager claimed that fire had been returned on the police i.e. someone in Nazi Mike's gang was firing at the police. This was supported by video evidence.

I notice how you have not commented on Mike's linkis to nazi's in the independent (not a tabloid). And their confirmation that it was a Nazi tatoo.

You didn't comment on him being photographed with a large arsenal of illegal weapons.

Btw, unless the hotel manager was with them all day he is unlikely to know whether they left a large hotel or not.

Your old buddy is in the ground, where he belongs, accept it.

[cactusflower]

The hotel manager said they didn't leave the hotel all day, but the bombing took place at night.

The life and death of Michael Dwyer - The Irish Times - Sat, Apr 25, 2009

[Seán E. Ryan]

The girlfriend says that he was with her earlier and not in the hotel, if my memory serves correct.

[Gruffalo]

The girlfriend says that he was with her earlier and not in the hotel, if my memory serves correct.

Your memory is correct. It seems Mike's friends in Bolivia cannot keep any consistency with their lies, which makes them just like his friends in Ireland.

[pyroger101]

You are an idiot.

I notice how you never commented when the same hotel manager claimed that fire had been returned on the police i.e. someone in Nazi Mike's gang was firing at the police. This was supported by video evidence.

I notice how you have not commented on Mike's linkis to nazi's in the independent (not a tabloid). And their confirmation that it was a Nazi tatoo.

You didn't comment on him being photographed with a large arsenal of illegal weapons.

Btw, unless the hotel manager was with them all day he is unlikely to know whether they left a large hotel or not.

Your old buddy is in the ground, where he belongs, accept it.

once again another poster who backs up my previous post.

I have purposely being keeping away from these boards because i have a life, no matter what is said or no matter what we say you find some way to try and twist it so why bother.

you say that the independent confirmed that it was a nazi tattoo ? how ? because there was what appeared to be two ss in it there are no confirmations, there ARE plenty of tattoos with similar designs which i have posted on this forum before but you choose to ignore them pictures clearly. your the idiot there.

i am not commenting on allot of what the news papers or you story tellers are saying simply because very little of what you have been saying is in fact true FACTS but just your opinions. Very little evidence has been shown, just allot of he said she said bullsh*t. Im sorry to disappoint you but the truth is not always written in the newspapers, just cause its in the news papers doesnt mean its fact, and it is these sources in which you are basing your ridiculous claims from.

Everything you are basing your argument so far with regards to mike has been circumstantial and hear say.

A picture of a man holding a gun could be anything, could be visiting a museum could be someone else's guns or could be that florez was doing what he said he was, training locals to defend their town, it also could mean that mike was hired as a body gaurd or just simply hanging around. if so that does not mean that they tried to kill the president...

getting into semantics now... but anyways im just saying is that allot of you don't have much stance or evidence right now, if this was in a fair court of law you would not have near enough to convict a man.

this is my last post for a while again, i have better more productive things to be doing with my life.

[Sam Lord]

or could be that florez was doing what he said he was, training locals to defend their town...

You must mean supporting the plans of a racist elite to carve of piece of Bolivia for themselves...

[Gruffalo]

[quote=pyroger101;1637682]

once again another poster who backs up my previous post.

I only back up that your mate was scum and you are a lying twat.

I have purposely being keeping away from these boards because i have a life, no matter what is said or no matter what we say you find some way to try and twist it so why bother.

Calling you on your lies is not twisting anything.

you say that the independent confirmed that it was a nazi tattoo ? how ? because there was what appeared to be two ss in it there are no confirmations, there ARE plenty of tattoos with similar designs which i have posted on this forum before but you choose to ignore them pictures clearly. your the idiot there.

No, the pictures you posted were laughable and you know that. Now shall we take the word of a respected journalist, and a respected newspaper or shall we take the word of one of Mike's "friends" who has repeatedly been caught out telling lies, and running away when asked difficult questions. Add to that hiding whenever evidence emerges which he cannot defend.

i am not commenting on allot of what the news papers or you story tellers are saying simply because very little of what you have been saying is in fact true FACTS but just your opinions.

BS, you have not commented on the fact that video evidence supports the claim that Mike's crew fired back, on the fact that the hotel manager stated that Flores' had a gun.

You failed to comment on the fact that Mike is pictured doing his Rambo impression with a load of illegal weapons.

You have failed to comment on all the evidence which connects him to Szekler Legion.

Yet you jump on the opportunity to comment on a claim by the hotel manager that they were in the hotel all day, despite the fact that this is disputed by Mike's girlfriend. You clearly do not know what a fact is.

Very little evidence has been shown, just allot of he said she said bullsh*t.

As you admitted earlier you have not being paying attention to the thread. Their is plenty of evidence, some of which is discussed in the point above. You have just chosen to ignore it.

Im sorry to disappoint you but the truth is not always written in the newspapers, just cause its in the news papers doesnt mean its fact, and it is these sources in which you are basing your ridiculous claims from.

When numerous sources support the same claims, which they do in this case, that is called substantial evidence. Jim Cusack is not proven to be a liar, you are.

Everything you are basing your argument so far with regards to mike has been circumstantial and hear say.

That is a joke. Read the evidence you twat.

A picture of a man holding a gun could be anything, could be visiting a museum

It has been confirmed, by the relevant hotel manager, that the photos were taken in their hotel.

could be someone else's guns

Witnesses have confirmed otherwise. Read the thread.

or could be that florez was doing what he said he was, training locals to defend their town,

From the democratically elected Government? That is not defence, that is civil war. He also told his friend that he was going to Bolivia to fight the Government. He has a track record as a mercenary.

it also could mean that mike was hired as a body gaurd

Bodyguards do not use that many weapons. They do not need to smuggle them into the country. They do not need explosives.

or just simply hanging around.

Evidence shows that he was with Flores' for months. That is not hanging around.

if so that does not mean that they tried to kill the president...

Flores made it clear why he assembled his group.

getting into semantics now

I doubt you would know the meaning of the word.

... but anyways im just saying is that allot of you don't have much stance or evidence right now,

There is plenty of evidence in a number of forms. Eye witnesses, Paper evidence, Videos and photographs. You just dont want to acknowledge it.

if this was in a fair court of law you would not have near enough to convict a man.

With all the evidence your mate would be spending life in prison, if he was still alive.

this is my last post for a while again, i have better more productive things to be doing with my life.

In other words, you have run out of lies to peddle.

[pyroger101]

i wish i had as much spare time to be spending my weekend stuck in front of a computer like you are to argue with you more but no, i don't unfortunately.

respected journalists... thats funny.

there has been no evidence to back up what you are saying.( i have done you the favor of posting a link that will explain what evidence is Evidence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

face it.

where have i lied?? I have not lied once.

im not running away just you are just a waste of time. if you were someone worth while or significantly important to this investigation i would give you all the time and answers you wanted. but your not, your nobody, a nobody with 1234 posts in little over a month. 1234 posts of which you spent just trying to discredit anything that is said by me or any other people that have open minds to this situation.