Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[Ih8politics]

I'll also remind you that Santa Cruz was originally a separate state from Bolivia.

Are you serious? You can't really believe half the stuff you write can you? Do a little research, your assertion above is a flat out historical LIE, perhaps you meant Texas USA. I hope it's just ignorance and not a purposeful attempt to misinform. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Nothing to do with this specific case.

But talking about Chavez and some mayor in Venezuela has anything to do with the specific case? Stop going off topic.

Stick to the case at hand, your belligerent rants have not added anything of substance.

Hugo Achá was on the list of persons allegedly targeted by the group.

If Achá himself was part of the plot, he and his right-wing "Human Rights Foundation" could have "investigated" the attack (like they "investigated" the Pando massacre) and blamed it on the Bolivian government.

Here is an interesting quote from July 2007:

"Morales needs time to repair MAS," said Hugo Acha, a prominent
opposition lawyer and television commentator.

"The assembly has failed as a point of understanding between the
Bolivian people. It's only dividing the country along regional and
ethnic fault lines," he said, comparing the situation to the
disintegration of the former Yugoslavia.
("Dispute over capital stymies socialist push", Washington Times, July 4, 2007)

VERY good point, his "human rights" organization tried to downplay the murder of those indians.

It is also interesting that he is currently in the USA, I don't think he'll be going back to Santa Cruz anytime soon.

[cactusflower]

well i think this can be taken with even the more then the usual pinch of salt then you'd take any statement from a stormfronter, you how people like to claims things for their own.

The person on the Stormfront website who said he knew Dwyer said that he was doing security for a Shell exec when he was in Bolivia. Would you dismiss that ?

[Gruffalo]

Are you serious? You can't really believe half the stuff you write can you?

[COLOR="Red"]Could anyone believe half the stuff that FT writes? If you could, I would be seriously worried about you.
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Do a little research, your assertion above is a flat out historical LIE, perhaps you meant Texas USA. I hope it's just ignorance and not a purposeful attempt to misinform. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Read back through the thread, he has repeatedly tried to misinform people.

[cactusflower]

Well some of them are. That video proves nothing with respect to Michael Dwyer.



Why is Chavez locking the mayors of Maracaibo and Caracas out of their offices? Why is Chavez promising to impose sanctions on the last broadcaster that criticises him? He's an elected-dictator who is destroying the opposition by repression.



So 3 neo-nazis one of whom happens to be Jewish?

Erhmm. Naked Brian Cowen's - police raid on radio show - George Lee and other financial journalists leaned on ?

[FutureTaoiseach]

Are you serious? You can't really believe half the stuff you write can you? Do a little research, your assertion above is a flat out historical LIE, perhaps you meant Texas USA. I hope it's just ignorance and not a purposeful attempt to misinform. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Well it's what I heard on Radio 1 (probably This Week) or Newstalk (The Wide Angle) in recent weeks.

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say it was fought over when Peru and Bolivia separated.

[Sam Lord]

Well it's what I heard on Radio 1 (probably This Week) or Newstalk (The Wide Angle) in recent weeks.

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say it was fought over when Peru and Bolivia separated.

Quite a different matter from being a SEPARATE STATE.

But exactly what is your point anyway ... that the white supremacists in Santa Cruza who are trying to break away have some sort of historical justification?

[FutureTaoiseach]

Quite a different matter from being a SEPARATE STATE.

But exactly what is your point anyway ... that the white supremacists in Santa Cruza who are trying to break away have some sort of historical justification?

I abhore white supremacism just I abhore state-terrorism regardless of the colour of skin of the person orchestrating it. When members of the IRA were killed in Gibraltar by the British the Republicans demanded answers on whether there was a "shoot to kill" policy, but when it comes to what has happened in Bolivia, the hard left are devoid of such questions.

[Gruffalo]

Maybe if he was a Nigerian asylum-seeker you'd believe him innocent.

You see FT, the above comment suggests that not only are you not oppossed to White Supremacists, but you have a lot in common with them.

You disgusting fascist apologist.

[imokyrok]

I abhore white supremacism just I abhore state-terrorism regardless of the colour of skin of the person orchestrating it. When members of the IRA were killed in Gibraltar by the British the Republicans demanded answers on whether there was a "shoot to kill" policy, but when it comes to what has happened in Bolivia, the hard left are devoid of such questions.

If Gardaí killed some members of a Continuity IRA cell engaged in a plot to over throw our government I wonder how dismissive of all the evidence accumulated so far you'd be. This was worse again since it was people from outside the country who were engaged in conspiring against the elected government. How would we react to such an event here?

BTW I had no problems with Gibralta. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I despise the terrorist argument that it's ok for them to kill whoever they want armed or unarmed but whinge when their terrorists get a hangnail.

[Sam Lord]

I abhore white supremacism just I abhore state-terrorism regardless of the colour of skin of the person orchestrating it. When members of the IRA were killed in Gibraltar by the British the Republicans demanded answers on whether there was a "shoot to kill" policy, but when it comes to what has happened in Bolivia, the hard left are devoid of such questions.

Avoiding my question about what was your point ...


Incidentially, I know nothing about South American history but to my knowledge the Department of Santa Cruz is in the East of Bolivia near Brazil and Paraguay. Accordingly, I'm not too sure why it would apparently feature in a conflict between Bolivia and Peru.

Are you making this stuff up as you go along?