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Thread: Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Flores was Jewish, so hardly a "neo-nazi".

    That proves nothing as this article should demonstrate to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Flores was Jewish, so hardly a "neo-nazi".

    I have repeatedly condemned fascism and nazism, while opposing the blanket-manner in which the Left use those terms to label anyone who isn't leftwing.
    He was Jewish, so what? That makes no difference, loads of Jews worked with the Nazi's during the war, for one reason or another. And in this case, this guy ain't fully Jewish.

    You can "condemn" fascism all you wish, but in actual fact it's plainly obvious from this thread how you really feel. You're beliefs are dangerous, they are extremist and your ilk are a stain on all human kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    That proves nothing as this article should demonstrate to you.

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    Nothing to do with this specific case.

    Quote Originally Posted by cHeal
    You can "condemn" fascism all you wish, but in actual fact it's plainly obvious from this thread how you really feel. You're beliefs are dangerous, they are extremist and your ilk are a stain on all human kind.
    My "beliefs" amount to support for democracy including toleration for the Opposition. and media-freedom to criticise the authorities - values violated by Chavez and now by Morales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Nothing to do with this specific case.

    But everything to do with your assertion ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Nothing to do with this specific case.



    My "beliefs" amount to support for democracy including toleration for the Opposition. and media-freedom to criticise the authorities - values violated by Chavez and now by Morales.
    That is a lie. Both are democrates to the core and if the US would bring home all their operatives a lot of the angst would be removed from both these countries. In both countries these leaders are hugely popular with the electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    That is a lie. Both are democrates to the core and if the US would bring home all their operatives a lot of the angst would be removed from both these countries. In both countries these leaders are hugely popular with the electorate.
    So was Hitler for a long time.

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    I don't intend to go off topic any longer but in response to FT assertion here is an interesting article by an Israeli journalist (jewish) about the rise of fascism in Israel.

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    Flores is a very very odd type- from commie to opes dei. From jewish political refugee (fascist chile) to nazi. Odd also that he was gay and turned to islam??? Odd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    So was Hitler for a long time.
    Now we can conclude that not only are you a racist right wing bigot, but you have no knowlegde at all if you are equating the German experience with what is happening in S. America. You could say the same about any elected leader anywhere in the world today. They might turn out bad some day.

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    Hugo Achá was on the list of persons allegedly targeted by the group.

    If Achá himself was part of the plot, he and his right-wing "Human Rights Foundation" could have "investigated" the attack (like they "investigated" the Pando massacre) and blamed it on the Bolivian government.

    Here is an interesting quote from July 2007:

    "Morales needs time to repair MAS," said Hugo Acha, a prominent
    opposition lawyer and television commentator.

    "The assembly has failed as a point of understanding between the
    Bolivian people. It's only dividing the country along regional and
    ethnic fault lines," he said, comparing the situation to the
    disintegration of the former Yugoslavia.
    ("Dispute over capital stymies socialist push", Washington Times, July 4, 2007)

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