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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Horse View Post
    I have already addressed that. The killer squad was brought in from La Paz.

    By the way, no one has mentioned a possible drugs angle. Bolivia is rapidly overtaking Peru and Colombia as center of cocaine production. Morales is undoubtedly up to his neck in it. In that part of Latin America, politics and the drug trade are intertwined. Speculation about drugs makes just as much sense as speculating that that ragtag group were going to assassinate someone.

    Finally, while we have no direct representation in La Paz, Ireland certainly should rap Morales over the knuckles about his reckless outburst on TV. He is quite incoherent at times, but among other things he says "How dare these countries, Ireland, Croatia (then he doesn't seem to know the third country, it sounds like he says Judia (Judea?)) send people over here to assassinate the president, and then defend them. It's me who should be putting them on trial!" (the "them" is a little ambiguous, but I would say most Spanish speakers would agree that it refers to the governments, not the alleged plotter). At one point he says "It makes me think that it was they (the govts.) who sent them here to assassinate me".

    A most intemperate outburst from a guy who is rapidly becoming the clown prince of Latin American politics.
    there was no drugs involved.

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    Peter Balazs, the Hungarian foreign minister, said his government had not received enough information from the Bolivian authorities.

    "I have doubts, and I don't see evidence that these people, who were killed by a police squad or detained, these people really planned the assassination of the president."

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    Morales "I can also condemn these declarations. I will never lie. If the prime minister defends these citizens, well, then I can think it was him who sent them to make an attempt against me, against this democracy."

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    my first thought his full of sh1t and a lier

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    Quote Originally Posted by edifice. View Post
    The Bolivian president showed Al Jazeera a picture of a man lying in bed with a gun on either side of him. It was not clear whether he was alive or dead, or who the man was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucanthandledatruth View Post
    i no you havent because newspapers have not covered it but it is known to the dywer family and friends.
    Of course it is.

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    The Bolivian president showed Al Jazeera a picture of a man lying in bed with a gun on either side of him. It was not clear whether he was alive or dead, or who the man was.
    The weapons in the photos look like a M-16 type automatic rifle and the other weapon appears to be some type of 9mm submachine gun perhaps an Heckler & Koch MP-5 or some similar gun.

    In a societies like Bolivia and South America where there is routine violence directed at political figures, business people and private citizens I would not be suprised if this type of weaponry is common.
    It doesn't prove anything definitive about a coup plot or anything else.
    It indicates that Flores (the man in the picture looks like Eduardo Flores) who was involved in political agitation in Santa Cruz simply had weapons for his own protection.

    If he was involved in some plot, it would be unusual for him to be laying about being photographed almost naked in bed posing with weapons he was presumeably going to use in the assassination plot?

    If we are supposed to believe this idiot was a pro, his behaviour does not indicate a person who was taking serious security measures to prevent his so-called plot from being rumpled by the Bolivian security forces.

    Employing a pudgy culchie whose only experience in soldiering was playing airsoft with his mates in his plot also makes this whole yarn about an assassination attempt smell of BS.

    Flores was rubbed out by the Molares because he was a noisy right wing troublemaker and his killing is an example to hardcore opponents of the Bolivian socialist revolution to think again about opposing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merle haggard View Post
    Morales did not change his mind . He stated that no foreign country has any right to demand or intitiate an international investigation . He lader added that if it was important to them foreign representatives could be present in Bolivia and be kept up to date with the findings . Its 2 very different things .
    Hes maintaining both the independence and integrity of Bolivian sovereignty in the affair while offering simultaneous transparancy to those who believe the investigation is important .
    True Merle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Crowley View Post
    Rubbish, the Fascist Dwyer was identified on this site before there was any mention of him in the press. I put up the link to his Bebo on which most of the initial coverage was based.

    Seriously? What are you talking about?

    The Star named him first.

    A simple read back of this thread, on page 6 to be exact, you will see that Kerry North posted that the Star named him as MD. That was posted 6 days ago.

    Five days ago, yes, a full day after the Star, you googled his name, like every hack in the country and found his bebo, like every hack and interested person in the country. You then said he 'looked like a right tosser.'

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    I believe the fact that Morales was a strong critic of Israel may be relevant.

    Morales broke diplomatic relations with Israel and threatened action against them over the Gaza operation

    Hugo Chavez then did likewise in solidarity with Morales.

    So its clear that Morales is Israels biggest critic in Latin America.



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