Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[Gruffalo]

i was in the Dwyer house and they dont care about papers like the sun or any of them stupid ones as they just come up with these storys to sell papers and to be quite honest no one around here bothers with them either as the star put mikes name on their paper before the dywer family were even told about what had happened. to me they should be putting up a full front page saying sorry to the family cause that was just a sick and bad way of doing business.

[COLOR="Red"]I will fully agree with you on that[/COLOR]

Them stupid papers have caused a lot of hurt around here and will never be welcome here for an sort of story again. and seen as some of you are still having a laugh and what not what about Morales changing his mind about letting an international committee sure to god you call all see that once michael martin said we would go ahead with after asking mikes parents if thats what they wanted morales changed his mind that he has something to hide.

It is not everyday practice to allow another country to carry out an investigation in your jurisdiction. He certainly is not obliged to. However, in my opinion Morales should at least make sure that there is an open and transparent investigation.

[ucanthandledatruth]

It is not everyday practice to allow another country to carry out an investigation in your jurisdiction. He certainly is not obliged to. However, in my opinion Morales should at least make sure that there is an open and transparent investigation.

Yes that is true but my point is he was the person that said about setting up this investigation in which michael martin said yes to with the consent of mikes parents Mr Morales changes his mind does this not look strange???

[toxic avenger]

Thanks gruffalo, hopefully it'll be gone tomorrow...

Government minister Alfredo Rada told local media that the names of those who financed the group would be released after a cabinet meeting later yesterday.
In a separate television interview Mr Rada also showed what he said was a photo that showed a Santa Cruz activist Mauricio Iturri with a group of seven other men all armed and dressed in camouflage.
On the radical fringes of the movement for greater autonomy for Santa Cruz, Mr Iturri is reportedly a leader of a small group called Resistance, though he now lives in Miami. A government newspaper also published a photo of what it said was Mr Rózsa Flores sleeping with an Uzi submachine gun and an M16 rifle. The photo was supposedly taken in a Santa Cruz hotel where he stayed for several weeks last year.
Local media questioned the veracity of the photo saying it appeared to have been photo-shopped. But a local photographic expert told The Irish Times that on balance it appeared genuine.

Photographs of Dwyer group leaked to media in Santa Cruz Images used to link men to opposition - The Irish Times - Thu, Apr 23, 2009

[Gruffalo]

Ideology is not evidence of criminal or wrong activity of any kind (except perhaps (perhaps) when it signifies membership of a criminal gang eg Crips in LA).

[COLOR="Red"]Nobody has said that it is evidence that he commited the crime. A tatoo cannot be used on it's own to convict someone, but it can be used to paint a picture of a character. By the way, Nazi's are a famous old 'gang'.[/COLOR]



The tattoo angle is evidence that some people have already made up their minds about him and are just taking the pattern to it's conclusion, filling in the rest to fit the mental picture they have already drawn.

The tatoo states his ideology. You are assuming that people have drawn particular conclusions past the meaning of the tatoo, using solely the tatoo.

The company he was keeping was that of a renowned international mercenary, who had clearly stated that his intentions in Bolivia were to build a militia and to fight the Government. He had been with this guy for some time. Was Dwyer really that stupid that he did not know what Flores was up to? We will see.

[toxic avenger]

And the BBC are covering it too:
BBC NEWS | Americas | Ireland seeks Bolivia explanation

[Gruffalo]

Yes that is true but my point is he was the person that said about setting up this investigation in which michael martin said yes to with the consent of mikes parents Mr Morales changes his mind does this not look strange???

We do not know why he changed his mind. And we do not if we will back down a little on this. It is all very fresh yet.

[ucanthandledatruth]

Thanks gruffalo, hopefully it'll be gone tomorrow...


Photographs of Dwyer group leaked to media in Santa Cruz Images used to link men to opposition - The Irish Times - Thu, Apr 23, 2009

i dont believe this as it has already been told that pictures takin were photo shopped not say this one is but other photos were but i havent seen the media making a big story out of that yetactualy they hevent said anything at all about it.

[ucanthandledatruth]

We do not know why he changed his mind. And we do not if we will back down a little on this. It is all very fresh yet.

strange what a difference 24 hours does to this man tho.

[Gruffalo]

i dont believe this as it has already been told that pictures takin were photo shopped not say this one is but other photos were but i havent seen the media making a big story out of that yetactualy they hevent said anything at all about it.

What photos were photoshopped? It says that the opposition said this one was but that an expert said it looked genuine.

[pete2]

The tattoo angle is evidence that some people have already made up their minds about him and are just taking the pattern to it's conclusion, filling in the rest to fit the mental picture they have already drawn.

Just not convinced, if he wanted a tattoo, a nazi one, why did he get that mess on his shoulder instead of something that is obviously a nazi tattoo like 1488, Sieg Heil, Blood & Iron, a swastika.

This thread and the whole tattoo angle is being attacked over at boards.ie

Please stop reguritating the dross that passes for arguement and discussion on other sites. I have seen the picture of his tattoo. I know quite a few lads who have similar ones. Saying it is Neo-Nazi is pathetic and mis-information of the higest order.

Irish Mercenary Killed in Bolivia - Page 3 - boards.ie