Irish 'involved' in Bolivia 'assassination attempt'

[mothball]

The simple fact that Morales is now attacking the Irish government and propaganising rather than investigating speaks loudly and clearly of his and his governments confidence in their actions.

Do you think he is the lead investigator? Others are doing the investigating. Morales is just highlighting the tacit acceptance of terrorists amongst Irish representatives and the media.

[Set Straight]

Gruffalo,

Set Straight is not a 'friend' of Mike Dwyer. She / He's an acquaintance. There are 2 different people using the handle name. She / He has downplayed Dwyer's activities in Santa Cruz and refuses to answer questions as to who he was working for or the nature of his business in Bolivia.

Party, The girl that was on here only used this profile the first day that i made this profile, no other time. And I don't know everything about his activities in Bolivia, hell his parents don't even know what he was doing.

[stripey cat]

I don't know everything about his activities in Bolivia, hell his parents don't even know what he was doing.

So he could have been doing anything really, for all you know?

[Gruffalo]

Look honestly I don't care if Evo Morales is a good leader or a bad leader, or if Flores was a Nazi or a socialist, or if Dwyer was converted by Flores or if you are in total support of morales regardless of what he does.

[COLOR="Red"]You should care as to why your friend died. If not you certainly should not be on this site discussing it. If you want your fond memories then this is not the place to be.[/COLOR]

I honestly don't care, what I want to know is why he wasnt given the right to court, why he was murdered and I want justice put apon those who allowed his murder, weather it be Morales himself or the nut case SWAT team that kill him. It was an illegal operation and people must be punished.
[COLOR="Red"]
There is evidence to suggest that he may have been given the opportunity to surrender i.e. 2 people did surrender and were arrested unharmed. If he was offered that opportunity and did not take it then it was not murder, it was self defence. I acknowledge that he may not have been offered the opportunity, his Spanish may not have been good enough to understand, but the evidence of two being taken alive suggests that there was a policy to allow surrender.[/COLOR]

And no Slandering by you or anyone else by ways of tattoos or past jobs or anything else can take away from that fact.

[COLOR="Red"]We are not going to agree on the tatoo. I know where you stand, you know where I stand. We will leave it at that. And by the way you cannot slander a dead man.[/COLOR]

And don't bother back answer me with your generated "it means everything" crap because I don't care.

You can't take away from the person Mike was when I knew him.

That is the point. All you want is your fond memories of your friend, which is understandable. Why the hell did you come on to a site where people want to know exactly what happened? Some of the details and photos are not very pleasant, to say the least.

Would you not be better served staying off sites like this and keeping your fond memories intact?

[Set Straight]

"There is evidence to suggest that he may have been given the opportunity to surrender i.e. 2 people did surrender and were arrested unharmed. If he was offered that opportunity and did not take it then it was not murder, it was self defence. I acknowledge that he may not have been offered the opportunity, his Spanish may not have been good enough to understand, but the evidence of two being taken alive suggests that there was a policy to allow surrender."

The Police did not have a warrant to enter the hotel and clear the rooms. Thus making everything else they did illegal.

Your Statement is Bogus.

[Gruffalo]

"There is evidence to suggest that he may have been given the opportunity to surrender i.e. 2 people did surrender and were arrested unharmed. If he was offered that opportunity and did not take it then it was not murder, it was self defence. I acknowledge that he may not have been offered the opportunity, his Spanish may not have been good enough to understand, but the evidence of two being taken alive suggests that there was a policy to allow surrender."

The Police did not have a warrant to enter the hotel and clear the rooms. Thus making everything else they did illegal.

Your Statement is Bogus.

Ah here you go with your expertise on Bolivian law again.

[Set Straight]

Ah here you go with your expertise on Bolivian law again.

Fine, prove me wrong then.....

[Gruffalo]

Fine, prove me wrong then.....

Here is a novel suggestion, prove yourself right. Give us the informaton about not having a warrant. Couple this with the requirement to have a warrant when such a threat has been made against the President.

[Set Straight]

Here is a novel suggestion, prove yourself right. Give us the informaton about not having a warrant. Couple this with the requirement to have a warrant when such a threat has been made against the President.

Fine, here you go

"Under Bolivian law, police need a warrant from the “fiscal” or prosecutor to detain a suspect. Any searches or seizures must occur at a bona fide police station in the presence of the fiscal. The warrant requirement also applies to suspected drug trafficking cases, although such searches and seizures may occur without a fiscal present. If detained, U.S. citizens should request to see the warrant and demand immediate contact with the U.S. Embassy in La Paz or nearest U.S. Consular Agency (in Cochabamba or Santa Cruz)."

Im sure this applies to non us citizens also

Bolivia <<<<<< See Here

[Gruffalo]

Fine, prove me wrong then.....

Read the following link, Sosa gives an explanation.

'No evidence' of Bolivia plot - The Irish Times - Wed, Apr 22, 2009

Mr Sosa also denied accusations within Santa Cruz that police acted illegally. “In this case the presence of a prosecutor was not necessary. The police just went to the hotel to see if the men were there. There was a confrontation and they defended themselves.”

Grant it they had a big force, 30 men, but if you are dealing with potential terrorists you are not going to go in lighthanded.

And if you read carefully you will see that the ones kicking up the fuss are the same people who hired Flores. Now there is a shock.