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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    I was going to add that. The "SS" symbol is exactly like a lightening image and has the same shape and design as other parts of the tattoo.
    The 'SS' symbol is usually described as 'lightning bolts'. It is 'SS', clear as day to me, but whether he was aware of it is another question. It's possible he didn't cop. I don't know how likely it is, but it is possible...

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    Can you see the wolf's hooks and triskelle below?...



    in this maori tattoo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    I was going to add that. The "SS" symbol is exactly like a lightening image and has the same shape and design as other parts of the tattoo.
    Yes you can argue they look like sig or sowilo runes


    but thats not the same as the insignia of the Schutzstaffel


    notice the incline and angling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    The 'SS' symbol is usually described as 'lightning bolts'. It is 'SS', clear as day to me, but whether he was aware of it is another question. It's possible he didn't cop. I don't know how likely it is, but it is possible...
    Look at it again Toxic. The bottom parts of the "SS" symbol end in a point, the top parts are square. No SS symbol has this feature. They are the same on top as on the bottom. But it is a common feature in tattoo designs.

    Also you have in Michael's tattoo two symmetrical parts at the top which parallel the two symmetrical parts at the bottom in the "SS" design. It's merely because there are two that people are interpreting it as an SS symbol but in fact it is an integral part of the design.
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    I'll put it this way, if he didn't see the potential for it to be seen as 'SS', he'd have to have been pretty bloody slow...

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    Can't believe you are discussing tatoos again... Go, open up a "how to tell a nazi by looking at him, and not knowing what is going on in his head" topic, and bring the childish discussion there.

    News will be coming from Hungary, which will heat up the Bolivia topic.

    And:
    Flores's grandfather was shot into the danube river by nazis during WWII. His father, and himself were communists. But ERF wasn't thinking about ideology, he rallied friends for his cause from both left and right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete2 View Post
    Yes you can argue they look like sig...
    I agree. It can be interpreted in all sorts of ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    I'll put it this way, if he didn't see the potential for it to be seen as 'SS', he'd have to have been pretty bloody slow...
    I don't know. I'm not at all convinced this is a nazi tattoo.
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    The tattoo discussion seems a bit pointless at this stage. It's obvious people have made up their mind, I personally could see it either way although I don't think it's very relevant at this point. That being said, it is worth mentioning that the white supremacists on stormfront certainly recognized it as a white nationalist tattoo. Who knows, I think there's bigger questions that we should be asking at this point.

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    Irish Times reporter Tom Hennick (sp?) has just arrived in the city of Santa Cruz Bolivia. He speaks spanish and will seek an interview with the lead investigator as well as government authorities. Hopefully he gets some answers.

    His direct and exact quote regarding Dwyers family knowledge of why he was in Bolivia is.

    "they(family) don't know why the son was here, they don't know anything, the friends don't know anything"


    Here is the video of the quote, more questions. Hopefully this reporter can find some answers while he's down there.

    <iframe src="http://www.videobolivia.com/3XUpdsMM69g.php?video=5961&ancho=380&alto=280" width="380" height="300" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" align="middle"></iframe>
    Is this journalist well known by any of you. Is he an investigative reporter or a latin american expert or just your run of the mill reporter.

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    This section from the Irish Times link which Almanac posted up a few posts back is rather interesting http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...245137987.html

    Mr Sosa (ps - he is the public prosecutor) also denied accusations within Santa Cruz that police acted illegally. “In this case the presence of a prosecutor was not necessary. The police just went to the hotel to see if the men were there. There was a confrontation and they defended themselves.”

    But hotel staff have told The Irish Times police raided the hotel during the night in a military-style operation involving more than 30 men.

    Civic leaders in Santa Cruz say the law clearly states such police actions require the presence of a prosecutor and are demanding to know why a Santa Cruz prosecutor who arrived shortly after the incident was denied access to the scene.


    This tallies with an Account I heard on drivetime on RTE Radio this evening going on about the Public Prosecutor being denied access to the scene. and yet here we have the same Public Prosecutor saying his presence was not necessary as the "police just went to the hotel to see if the men were there"

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