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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    No but it would make me happier if the IDF stopped murdering Palestinians who are not killing Israelis. They are absolutely brutal in their disregard for civilian lives on a scale that dwarfs a thousand Hamas attacks.
    What scale ? They killed two Hamas "operatives". Seems fairly modest to me.

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    Can anyone guess What proportion of Future Toaiseach's posts are devoted to JudenHaß?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkeith View Post
    Can anyone guess What proportion of Future Toaiseach's posts are devoted to JudenHaß?
    Reported for smear. I hope Mossad is paying you well. The issue is the State of Israel not the global Jewish people such as Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein which are staunch critics of Israel. I am far from being in a minority in my criticisms of Israel, as demonstrated by yet another annual BBC World Service poll revealing that all but 2 countries questioned regard Israeli influence in the world as negative (and even in the US it's only 40-31 who say "positive").
    Quote Originally Posted by former_wesleyan
    What scale ? They killed two Hamas "operatives". Seems fairly modest to me.
    I'm referring to the persistant pattern of disproportionate military force including the use of chemical weapons against the Palestinians and Israel's Arab neighbours since 1967.
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    Let see, most of your posts in which speak of jews or Israelis you

    # promote the denial of the Jewish people the right to self-determination, e.g. by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor.

    # Apply double standards by requiring of Israel a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

    # Draw comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

    # Hold Jews collectively responsible for actions of the State of Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Reported for smear. I hope Mossad is paying you well. The issue is the State of Israel not the global Jewish people such as Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein which are staunch critics of Israel. I am far from being in a minority in my criticisms of Israel, as demonstrated by yet another annual BBC World Service poll revealing that all but 2 countries questioned regard Israeli influence in the world as negative (and even in the US it's only 40-31 who say "positive").I'm referring to the persistant pattern of disproportionate military force including the use of chemical weapons against the Palestinians and Israel's Arab neighbours since 1967.
    Anti-Semitic bigotry is no less morally deplorable when camouflaged as anti-Israelism or anti-Zionism

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkeith View Post
    Let see, most of your posts in which speak of jews or Israelis you

    # promote the denial of the Jewish people the right to self-determination, e.g. by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor.
    I have bever denied Israel's right to exist but you seem to have a problem distinguishing between a right to exist and a right to occupy another people. You are denying the Palestinians their right to self-determination, while demanding it for Israel. A gross hypocrisy on your part.
    # Apply double standards by requiring of Israel a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
    I can't think of another Western nation building settlements on occupied land or that has violated so many UNSC Resolutions. Even the Brits didn't send the RAF to bomb Dublin during the Northern Troubles
    # Draw comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
    Because in some respects it is. Expulsion of 750,000 Arabs in 1948 sounds pretty fascist to me. Hired thugs in the pay of the Israeli govt breaking up mixed-marriages is another example. The colonisation of the West Bank constitutes a Lebensraum policy.
    Hold Jews collectively responsible for actions of the State of Israel
    Is that why I praised Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein for criticisng Israel in spite of being Jewish? That remark is utter toss and you know it. AIPAC smears won't work here.

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    Come on FT - Maybe I am mis-representing you but you seem to be saying that the only good Jew is one that criticises Israel? You also appear to be simlifying the situation by conveniently forgetting the History of this region. A History which is not black and white, but is indeed very complex. A History by the way, which neither side comes out of it very well. Also, the Arab countries in the region and a lot further afield have not been paragons of virture themselves. To be honest they have stoked the flames big-time! Also, would it not be true that everything you can say about one side can be said about the other?

    Finally, is it my imagination, that when we have a discussion on say non-nationals, it is the same people who are so quick to call others "Racist" are also the very same people who are very anti Israeli/Jew/USA and pro Arab/Muslim? And before anyone ask "What's your point....?" There is none, it is just an observation...!

    Just to answer the question - "Are Israeli Jews the most racist people on Earth"? I don't know - but the Chinese are up there, as are a few other Asian countries! Having travelled the world a few times over I can honestly say that I have encountered racism in practically every country I have been to! What that says about us humans I just don't know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unsionn View Post
    Come on FT - Maybe I am mis-representing you
    Yes you are actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    And therefore do not excuse IDF slaughter of Palestinians. In fact, there hasn't been a single Hamas suicide bombing against Israe;o civilians since 2004, yet the Zionist entity persists in carpet-bombing Gaza every couple of months, and confiscating Palestinian land in the West Bank. Part of the Apartheid regime of Israel is the fact that non-Jews who lost their land in 1967 are not allowed to reclaim it whereas Jews are. And as stated earlier, the Israeli regime is now funding stormtroopers to break up inter-racial marriages violently. Clearly a fascist, racist statelet.
    What different does it make how they kill Israeli? No state can allow itself to be attacked, even if most of the rockets don't kill people. They still occasionally do and cause constant damage. How would you like it if rockets were fired at your home town. Odds they won't kill you, but they could and there is always that constant fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    What different does it make how they kill Israeli? No state can allow itself to be attacked, even if most of the rockets don't kill people. They still occasionally do and cause constant damage. How would you like it if rockets were fired at your home town. Odds they won't kill you, but they could and there is always that constant fear.


    And compare the fear zionists living in southern Israel live in to that the Palestinians in the Gaza strip have been forced to live in for generations and you have your rationale for the constant yet ineffective rocket attacks launched from that location.

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