'Nothing to discuss' on Falklands' says British PM at G20

[DaBrow]

BBC NEWS | Politics | 'Nothing to discuss' on Falklands

This is just typical of Britain, they found a pointless war nearly 30 years ago over an island that is thousands of miles away and was territory stolen from the Argentinians in 1833.

Anyone whom knows their history would accept that in 1807, British troops landed in the Malvinas during what was then the napleonic wars which spain sided with France and the British also occupied Buenos Aires around the same time............................ when Latin America was preparing to Rebel against Spain for freedom.

However, when the rest of South America was liberated Britain was still setting its eyes on las Malvinas and expelled the remaining Argentinians in the 1830's.

I won't be suprised if another war breaks out, which I'm sure it will in the future

[Thac0man]

What claim does Argentina have to the Falklands? The islands were contested between France, Spain and Britain. Argentina is not mentioned, unless it is seeking to usurp the Spanish imperial claim. And if they want to do that, why not claim a chunk of other part of south America too? Same precident to back up such an action too surely?

[greasytrucker]

BBC NEWS | Politics | 'Nothing to discuss' on Falklands

This is just typical of Britain, they found a pointless war nearly 30 years ago over an island that is thousands of miles away and was territory stolen from the Argentinians in 1833.

Anyone whom knows their history would accept that in 1807, British troops landed in the Malvinas during what was then the napleonic wars which spain sided with France and the British also occupied Buenos Aires around the same time............................ when Latin America was preparing to Rebel against Spain for freedom.

However, when the rest of South America was liberated Britain was still setting its eyes on las Malvinas and expelled the remaining Argentinians in the 1830's.

I won't be suprised if another war breaks out, which I'm sure it will in the future

More anti British Lies. The Falklands are 4oo miles from Argentina and bigger then Ireland, Argentina has no claim on them territorally if not British they would be independent.


In January 1765 British captain John Byron explored and claimed Saunders Island, at the western end of the group, where he named the harbour of Port Egmont. He sailed near other islands, which he also claimed for King George III. A British settlement was built at Port Egmont in 1766. Also in 1766, Spain acquired the French colony, and after assuming effective control in 1767, placed the islands under a governor subordinate to the Buenos Aires colonial administration. Spain attacked Port Egmont, ending the British presence there in 1770. The expulsion of the British settlement brought the two countries to the brink of war, but a peace treaty allowed the British to return to Port Egmont in 1771 with neither side relinquishing sovereignty.[10]

As a result of economic pressures resulting from the forthcoming American War of Independence, the United Kingdom unilaterally chose to withdraw from many of her overseas settlements in 1774.[11][12] Upon her withdrawal in 1776 the UK left behind a plaque asserting her claims. From then on, Spain alone maintained a settlement ruled from Buenos Aires under the control of the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata until 1811. On leaving in 1811, Spain, too, left behind a plaque asserting her claims.

On 6 November 1820, Colonel David Jewett raised the flag of the United Provinces of the River Plate (Argentina) at Port Louis. Jewett was an American sailor and privateer in the employment of Buenos Aires businessman Patrick Lynch to captain his ship, the frigate Heroína (Lynch had obtained a corsair licence from the Buenos Aires Supreme Director Jose Rondeau). Jewett had put into the islands the previous month, following a disastrous eight month voyage with most of his crew disabled by scurvy and disease. After resting in the islands and repairing his ship he returned to Buenos Aires.

Occupation began in 1828 with the foundation of a settlement and a penal colony. This settlement was destroyed by United States warships in 1831 after the Argentine governor of the islands Luis Vernet seized U.S. seal hunting ships during a dispute over fishing rights. They left behind escaped prisoners and pirates. In November 1832, Argentina sent another governor who was killed in a mutiny.

In January 1833, British forces returned and informed the Argentine commander that they intended to reassert British sovereignty.

[greasytrucker]

The Falklands are British.






Their sacrifce will never be betrayed.

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DG%26um%3D1

[DaBrow]

More anti British Lies. The Falklands are 4oo miles from Argentina and bigger then Ireland, Argentina has no claim on them territorally if not British they would be independent.


In January 1765 British captain John Byron explored and claimed Saunders Island, at the western end of the group, where he named the harbour of Port Egmont. He sailed near other islands, which he also claimed for King George III. A British settlement was built at Port Egmont in 1766. Also in 1766, Spain acquired the French colony, and after assuming effective control in 1767, placed the islands under a governor subordinate to the Buenos Aires colonial administration. Spain attacked Port Egmont, ending the British presence there in 1770. The expulsion of the British settlement brought the two countries to the brink of war, but a peace treaty allowed the British to return to Port Egmont in 1771 with neither side relinquishing sovereignty.[10]

As a result of economic pressures resulting from the forthcoming American War of Independence, the United Kingdom unilaterally chose to withdraw from many of her overseas settlements in 1774.[11][12] Upon her withdrawal in 1776 the UK left behind a plaque asserting her claims. From then on, Spain alone maintained a settlement ruled from Buenos Aires under the control of the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata until 1811. On leaving in 1811, Spain, too, left behind a plaque asserting her claims.

On 6 November 1820, Colonel David Jewett raised the flag of the United Provinces of the River Plate (Argentina) at Port Louis. Jewett was an American sailor and privateer in the employment of Buenos Aires businessman Patrick Lynch to captain his ship, the frigate Heroína (Lynch had obtained a corsair licence from the Buenos Aires Supreme Director Jose Rondeau). Jewett had put into the islands the previous month, following a disastrous eight month voyage with most of his crew disabled by scurvy and disease. After resting in the islands and repairing his ship he returned to Buenos Aires.

Occupation began in 1828 with the foundation of a settlement and a penal colony. This settlement was destroyed by United States warships in 1831 after the Argentine governor of the islands Luis Vernet seized U.S. seal hunting ships during a dispute over fishing rights. They left behind escaped prisoners and pirates. In November 1832, Argentina sent another governor who was killed in a mutiny.

In January 1833, British forces returned and informed the Argentine commander that they intended to reassert British sovereignty.

So we are in Agreement, it was predominantly ruled over by the spanish and then the Rio del Plata (Argentina) until the British in 1833 officially expelled the remaining now argentine settlers.

Britain only had a port or base, they never ruled the place until they usurped it from Argentine rule........................ forcefully and aggressively.

It states that they had no controlling presence there for years whilst spain ruled it from 1767 until 1811 (When Spanish South America started rebelling) and they left a plaque claiming soverignty like the brits did whom were there only a short-time, from Buenos Aires soon to be Argentinas capital.





Why in God's Name is it of any use to Britain? It's thousands of Miles away from London and also it is known as a real kip.

I remember an ex-service man saying that the only extra-curricular activity anyone has is getting drunk and beating the crap out of one another, this happens day in and day out.

[YesSireeeBob]

More anti British Lies. The Falklands are 4oo miles from Argentina and bigger then Ireland, Argentina has no claim on them territorally if not British they would be independent.

Ireland 81,638 km²
Malvinas 12,200 km²

[drbob1972]

the over whelming majority of the population of the Island want to remain as part of the British Overseas Terratories and have voted for same, therefore they remain a part of same, much like Gibralter and other outcrops dotted around the globe. The same can be said for French and Spanish overseas terratories, they are kept mostly at the will of the populus's on same not out of some evil empirical conspiracy

[JCSkinner]

Point of information: This land is British.



Any other land isn't Britain, and isn't British. That will be all.

[DaBrow]

the over whelming majority of the population of the Island want to remain as part of the British Overseas Terratories and have voted for same, therefore they remain a part of same, much like Gibralter and other outcrops dotted around the globe. The same can be said for French and Spanish overseas terratories, they are kept mostly at the will of the populus's on same not out of some evil empirical conspiracy

The reason why the population want to be a British Dependency is because like Gribraltar, the British Planted their own people on the Malvinas and Gribraltar to form the majoirty population.

They cluster bombed the place with people, making any democracy arguement nigh impossible to hold.

Both these places, like the North (Physically Irish but Pyschologically Brits) are occupied by people believing that they are part of britain but in no way attached to the place or even near bordering the place.

[greasytrucker]

So we are in Agreement, it was predominantly ruled over by the spanish and then the Rio del Plata (Argentina) until the British in 1833 officially expelled the remaining now argentine settlers.

Britain only had a port or base, they never ruled the place until they usurped it from Argentine rule........................ forcefully and aggressively.

It states that they had no controlling presence there for years whilst spain ruled it from 1767 until 1811 (When Spanish South America started rebelling) and they left a plaque claiming soverignty like the brits did whom were there only a short-time, from Buenos Aires soon to be Argentinas capital.





Why in God's Name is it of any use to Britain? It's thousands of Miles away from London and also it is known as a real kip.

I remember an ex-service man saying that the only extra-curricular activity anyone has is getting drunk and beating the crap out of one another, this happens day in and day out.

Britain discovered the islands and administered them and left a plaque claiming soverignty, Argentina then came along and claimed them, Argentinas only claim is that they are 400 miles away, thats not really much of a claim.