Israeli soldiers' "cold blooded murder" of Gaza's civilians

[L'Chaim]

Now we're getting somewhere, changing history does not make it truth either. What you have done is distort the truth and distorting the truth is a lie. Your whole existence is based on distorting the truth.

You really don't have an idea of your own at all do you? Next you'll be trying to tell us that Israel threatened all its neighbours and started all the wars with its neighbours. Oops, you tried to do that already hehehehehehe

[yanshuf]

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Yanshuf, your above qoute and very many others are quite hypocrticical when you are slagging off the common Irish support for the Palestinian cause while also using our native language as a sign off on your posts! Do you not think that in itself is hypocritical, then added to the fact that we irish people and our land is still under occupation!?

It's hypocritical if you see the language as a symbol of the IRA or any Irish groups wanting to liberate NI. It's not hypocritical when using the langauge comes from a deep esteem to it.

"Israel" cannot obtain legal title to any territory by conquest. Thus Israel's borders were legally established by the United Nations Partition Resolution of 1947, which ended Great Britain's power as a trustee on condition that an Arab State and a Jewish State would be established with borders as demarkated in the text of the resolution. Those borders remain the legal boundary of the ilegal "State" of Israel.

Nonsense! Israel's borders were accepted by the League of Nations and they included Judead, Samaria and Gaza.

And if speaking about hypocrisy, then we can't ignore the fact that the Arabs, those same people who rejected the UN Partition Plan, are now using it as a salvation anchor for any future negotiations.

And the outrage increases even more when we see they want the invented right of return to be implemented, when we know they rejected that resolution too.

Kintama:

You can peddle all the lies you want but the violence was initiated by your leadership with one eye on the elections (don't believe me check you own military sources) and your Nazi 'IDF' monsters left toddlers to starve almost to the point of death. But the Embassy don't want to talk about that .
It is the fascist behaviour of the Zionists that will bring about the demise of the Israeli state, as currently constituted, and no one on this site will be silenced by your patronising analysis.

No, the Arab leadership with their popular support, were the ones to initiate the terror campaigns and missile attacks on Israeli civilians. Back in the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's, 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's and 2000's.

Israel responded to blood thirsty people. The same poeple you support, Kintama. People who are responsible for the last harvest of dead in Gaza with more than a 1000 dead. But then again, they have always said they will fight Israel to the last person, but they never mentioned they never meant that person not to be a Hamas member.

[Alterego]

You really don't have an idea of your own at all do you? Next you'll be trying to tell us that Israel bought all the land it now holds and was threatened by all its neighbours and who started all the wars with it. Oops, you tried to do that already hehehehehehe

[FakeViking]

You really don't have an idea of your own at all do you? Next you'll be trying to tell us that Israel bought all the land it now holds and was threatened by all its neighbours and who started all the wars with it. Oops, you tried to do that already hehehehehehe

AE, next thing they'll offer you a history lesson. And a few pages from Leon Uris to begin with.

[L'Chaim]

You really don't have an idea of your own at all do you? Next you'll be trying to tell us that Israel bought all the land it now holds and was threatened by all its neighbours and who started all the wars with it. Oops, you tried to do that already hehehehehehe

Do you want a list of all the wars against israel that were started by their Arab neighbours?
1948 war of independence, the six day war in 67, the Yom Kippur war in 73. That should do for starters. All started with arab aggression. I'll happily debate any one of them with you.

You obviously never heard of the laws Arab leaders brought in to make it a capital offence to sell land to Jews because the Jews were buying up so much of it, which led to Arab selling agents being executed for selling land to Jews

[loaded32]

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It's hypocritical if you see the language as a symbol of the IRA or any Irish groups wanting to liberate NI. It's not hypocritical when using the langauge comes from a deep esteem to it.

I am not uninteligable enough to in some way link our language to the IRA. However, I am definitely part of "an Irish group that wants to liberate" the North. This group is called the majority of Irish people. I appreciate your "esteem" for the irish language, however the esteem can only be driven by one force -your nationalist and traditionalist stance. This is the same stance that inspires the majority of ordinary, peaceful Irish citizens to seek the day when OUR Ireland will be as one again, in peace and prosperity and incorporating all religions and race of people! Thus why my argument that you are essentially a hypocrit . Do you believe that the North is part of Ireland or the UK?

[yanshuf]

I am definitely part of "an Irish group that wants to liberate" the North.

good for you.

This group is called the majority of Irish people

Now, I wouldn't bet on it!

. I appreciate your "esteem" for the irish language, however the esteem can only be driven by one force -your nationalist and traditionalist stance. This is the same stance that inspires the majority of ordinary, peaceful Irish citizens to seek the day when OUR Ireland will be as one again, in peace and prosperity and incorporating all religions and race of people!

Under a British Rule?
I suspect that you would be very surprised to the response of ordinary people in Dublin to the idea that the North would become once again under Irish control.

Thus why my argument that you are essentially a hypocrit . Do you believe that the North is part of Ireland or the UK?

I used to believe wholeheartedly that the North should be a part of the Republic, but I don't anymore. Since I've come to realise that most Irish just don't give a toss who rules the North.

I used to be an Irish enthusiast, but I've seen too much of the "charm", and today I think the North should have its own way.

[loaded32]

good for you.



Now, I wouldn't bet on it!


Under a British Rule?
I suspect that you would be very surprised to the response of ordinary people in Dublin to the idea that the North would become once again under Irish control.



I used to believe wholeheartedly that the North should be a part of the Republic, but I don't anymore. Since I've come to realise that most Irish just don't give a toss who rules the North.

I used to be an Irish enthusiast, but I've seen too much of the "charm", and today I think the North should have its own way.

Well, I completely respect your opinion and your right to it. I live in the south east and I can tell you 99% of people I know, and before you start -they are not provos or "Sinners", would always tell you that their hearts long for the day when our country is as one again and where the song "Only Our Rivers Run Free" is often sung at almost every sing-song and joined by all with passion!
You have at least admited that you did believe before "wholeheartedly" in a united Ireland, so perhaps you in fact may find some empathy somewhere in your bones for the Palestinian cause, on that basis

[L'Chaim]

Well, I completely respect your opinion and your right to it. I live in the south east and I can tell you 99% of people I know, and before you start -they are not provos or "Sinners", would always tell you that their hearts long for the day when our country is as one again and where the song "Only Our Rivers Run Free" is often sung at almost every sing-song and joined by all with passion!
You have at least admited that you did believe before "wholeheartedly" in a united Ireland, so perhaps you in fact may find some empathy somewhere in your bones for the Palestinian cause, on that basis

99%! Would it be that much? I would have thought that the figure for people longing in their hearts for 'a nation once again' would be a fraction of what you say. I can honestly say I don't know of one single person who does care about an all Ireland republic.

[loaded32]

99%! Would it be that much? I would have thought that the figure for people longing in their hearts for 'a nation once again' would be a fraction of what you say. I can honestly say I don't know of one single person who does care about an all Ireland republic.

Again, I dont know where you live and you are quite entitled to your thoughts. I am describing my personal factual experiences in an attempt to explain (which I shouldnt realy have to do as its a no-brainer) to Yanshuf, why the large amount of irish people that he is complaining of, support the Palestinian cause. If your take was so true, that people didnt care for our Republic, why would Yanshuf be compaining about the large amount of Irish people supporting the Palestine cause??