I am an "Islamic Extremist"

[st333ve]

So you completely remove the causes of conflict from the conflict and come to the conclusion that the occupation , war and destruction imposed on these people has absoloutly nothing to do with the fighting that began after these people destroyed their country?

What about the people who the occupation have murdered, did they all deserve to die?

If they bombed your home ,armed your neighbours who hated you, handed them power and forced you to live in a hell hole , would you obsolve them of all wrong doing if you ended up using a weapon?

The people who bring fear, hatered and destruction to a country are also responsible for the terror that the country lives in afterwards.

[Trampas]

The people who bring fear, hatered and destruction to a country are also responsible for the terror that the country lives in afterwards.

Got it now. The US is responsible for the subjugation of the majority Shia under Saddam and for everything that has happened since they did the Iraqis the signal favour of deposing that tyrant. Mental gymnastics or what ?

[st333ve]

Do you completely ignore the fact that war was brought to these people?
They didnt go looking for conflict, Saddams actions did not warrant the destruction of Iraq and death or exile of millions of people who dont deserve to be punished for his actions.
The occupation has done more damage than a tyrant dictator but the carniage is ignored in favour of blaming the natives.
Intermarraiage and relations between the two sides were a lot better before the bombs came.

The arming of militia and divide and conquer tactics have completely destroyed relations - basic necessities they had before the war are gone.

You think the vast destruction of Iraq was 'a favour' because they replaced a tyrant with an occupation far worse? an occupation that has also destroyed their country, infastructure and wiped off a few million people from its population?


-In 13 of Iraq's 18 provinces, electricity was available fewer hours per day on average last month than before the war. Nearly 20 million of Iraq's 26 million people live in those provinces.

-Only $13.7 billion of the $58 billion pledged and allocated worldwide to rebuild Iraq has been spent, with another $10 billion about to be spent. The biggest chunk of that money has been used to run Iraq's ministry operations.

-The country's court system is more clogged than before the war, and judges are frequent targets of assassination attempts.

-The new Iraqi civil defense, police and overall security units are suffering from mass desertions, are poorly trained and ill-equipped.

-The number of what the now-disbanded Coalition Provisional Authority called significant insurgent attacks skyrocketed from 411 in February to 1,169 in May.

"When we ask why are things not going the way we hoped for," Singer said, "the answer in part of this is that we haven't actually spent what we have in pocket."

He said the figures on electricity "make me want to cry."

Steven Susens, a spokesman for the Program Management Office, which oversees contractors rebuilding Iraq, conceded that many areas of Iraq have fewer hours of electricity now than they did before the war.

Iraq is Worse Off Than Before the War Began, GAO Reports

Hardly a 'favour' is it?

Their country is in ruins, god help them.

The occupation are a pack of monsters who deserve no credit for the vast crimes they have commited.

If you think that this is doing someone a favour then your are sick.

[Trampas]

Do you completely ignore the fact that war was brought to these people?

That war lasted a matter of weeks. Since then far more Iraqis have been killed by other Iraqis/Muslims that by coalition forces. Do you accept that ?

[Asi-Irish]

That war lasted a matter of weeks.

Jaysus, it felt more like 6 years. Did it end today, or something?

[Asi-Irish]

And by the way, under international law, the occupying power is obliged to provide security for the population under occupation.

They didn't. They stood by and watched when the whole country descended into chaos.

They didn't even try to protect the museums housing the nation's treasures.

They invaded the country and they presided over the slaughter of around 1,000,000 Iraqis.

They are responsible for the deaths.

[Pound_E]

There has been a discernable drift for the US/NWO regime to expand its target from being a "war on terror" to being a "war" on the much broader and potentially, all-dissent encompassing, extremism. Even groups as unlikely as traditionalist Catholics are finding that files are being kept on them.

These are truely Orwellian times, folks.

[Trampas]

And by the way, under international law, the occupying power is obliged to provide security for the population under occupation.

They didn't. They stood by and watched when the whole country descended into chaos.

They didn't even try to protect the museums housing the nation's treasures.

They invaded the country and they presided over the slaughter of around 1,000,000 Iraqis.

They are responsible for the deaths.

Top of their list of responsibilities would be their failure to predict that without Saddam's iron fist Shia and Sunni will revert to type. By "presiding" you mean they were present in the country and were unable to stop the factions from having a real go at one another.
Too bad.

[Asi-Irish]

They knew damn well what would happen if they invaded...

[TexAG]

I don't know if they could have predicted that muslims would be bombing each other's mosques,schools, hospitals and orphanages.