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    Ulster-Lad Ulster-Lad is offline
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    States threaten to leave (secede) US

    It appears that the anointed one (Obama) is going to have his hands full. The state of New Hampshire is debating a resolution to secede from the union of the United States. It basis this on several perceived violations of the US constitution. Several other states support New Hampshire and are also considering similar measures.

    This could lead to the end of the United States as we know it.

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    Aindriu Aindriu is offline
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    Oh goody. Could we be seeing the meltdown of the 'great' US of A at last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    It appears that the anointed one (Obama) is going to have his hands full. The state of New Hampshire is debating a resolution to secede from the union of the United States. It basis this on several perceived violations of the US constitution. Several other states support New Hampshire and are also considering similar measures.

    This could lead to the end of the United States as we know it.

    HCR 0006

    Such propositions are a regular feature of New Hampshire political life. They have nothing to do with Obama's election and would have continued whoever had won the Presidential election. It will be defeated just as all other nut-job propositions for NH to secede from the US have been defeated before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aindriu View Post
    Oh goody. Could we be seeing the meltdown of the 'great' US of A at last?
    Theres secession movements in Alaska and Texas as well, they occasionally get resolutions in, never passes.

    You think they'd leave and turn down all that stimulus money?

    Most Americans oppose even the right to seceded:

    http://www.zogby.com/news/readnews.cfm
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    These stunts are nothing new. Just mediocre local politicians trying to make a name for themselves
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    Not. Gonna. Happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazzy Maz View Post
    Not. Gonna. Happen.
    Ahhhhh nuts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by setanta View Post
    Such propositions are a regular feature of New Hampshire political life. They have nothing to do with Obama's election and would have continued whoever had won the Presidential election. It will be defeated just as all other nut-job propositions for NH to secede from the US have been defeated before.
    Well I just saw on the telly where 25 other states support the measure as well which led me to try to find an article on it.
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    As far as I can recall, the Right to Secede from the Union was removed after the US Civil War.

    As to New Hampshire seceeding, that comes up as regularly as the Fall colours. They're still in the Union.
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    It's not just New Hampshire! Firestorm Brewing Between U.S. States and Federal Gov.

    Firestorm Brewing Between U.S. States and Federal Government

    States May Be Getting Ready To Dissolve Our Federal Government

    Could this be an ominous shadow drawing on the end of the United States of America? For years the Federal Government has presumed to be the all-powerful force governing our country, but it just could be that the Federal Government only exists at the pleasure of the state governments and the citizens thereof. States declaring sovereignty sounds like an act of secession and revolution. However the federal government can apparently be dissolved and another one formed anew at the discretion of the states. The existing Federal government may not leave willingly like so many European governments that are replaced routinely and it may engage a military effort with our own soldiers or the likes of a Black Water illegal military invasion to retain total control over us.

    United States Federal Government laws are often in violation of the Tenth Amendment, which is perturbing, these events. This is predicated on an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation, which states that, “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation [now Federation] expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”

    A growing number of states are declaring their sovereignty afforded under the U S Constitution’s Tenth Amendment however the conventional news media are not telling you about what is happening. The State of Washington on Wednesday - 11 February 2009 and most recently, New Hampshire [2009], Montana [2009], Hawaii [2009], Michigan [2009], Missouri [2009], Arizona [2008], Oklahoma [2008], Georgia [1996], and California [1994] all of which have introduced bills and resolutions declaring and reaffirming their sovereignty. Some other states have done this in the past but then let the issue go. Additionally, the states of Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering similar measures. More well may follow, such as Wyoming and Mississippi.

    The Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791 and states, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Historically, this was done to reassert the assignment of the remaining rights to the states and the people of our country if they were not specifically delegated by our Constitution to the United States Government. Further, Amendment Nine on the Construction of the Constitution, Ratified on 15 December 1791 states, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

    OpEdNews Firestorm Brewing Between U.S. States and Federal Government

    http://digg.com/politics/Firestorm_B...ral_Government

    Ten states have declared their sovereignty -
    The State of Washington on Wednesday - 11 February 2009 ,
    New Hampshire [2009],
    Montana [2009],
    Hawaii [2009],
    Michigan [2009],
    Missouri [2009],
    Arizona [2008],
    Oklahoma [2008],
    Georgia [1996]
    California [1994]

    Additionally, the states of
    Colorado,
    Pennsylvania,
    Arkansas,
    Idaho,
    Indiana,
    Alaska,
    Kansas,
    Alabama,
    Nevada,
    Maine,
    Illinois,
    Wyoming,
    Mississippi are considering similar measures.
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