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    I'm no fan of American imperialism but nobody needs an excuse to overthrow a fascist dictator and I'll cheer on America if they take out the Iranian mullahs or Mugabe or any other turdstick that is oppressing their own people.

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    Sounds like MI6 Disinfo

    Straight from the Times text. I've isolated the key words in brackets



    "The arrest of a woman (suspected) of grooming rape victims to become female suicide bombers in Iraq has dealt a blow to the network of extremists that orchestrates such attacks, a senior Iraqi official said yesterday.

    Samira Ahmed Jassim, 51, (is accused) of recruiting more than 80 women to become human bombs, including 28 who actually carried out attacks.

    She has (apparently) confessed to helping to organise the rape of young Iraqi women.


    Her (apparent confession) was broadcast widely on Iraqi media, along with a video of Jassim, nicknamed “the mother of believers”, talking about her alleged crimes.



    There was no (independent verification) of the claims that rape was used as a means to turn women into suicide attackers.

    General al-Moussawi said that Jassim was a member of Ansar al-Sunna, a Sunni Arab militant group with (suspected) links to al-Qaeda.

    Jassim is heard in the video (apparently) confessing to training a female bomber who attacked a police station in Diyala."



    Anyone who knows the war in Iraq is a fraud knows you don't have to be a leftie to spot British Intelligence propaganda.

    This woman may or may not be behind "suicide attacks". Some are suicide attacks some are clearly not suicide. Some are US and British orchestrated -just like Northern Ireland. A few days in Abu Ghraib and she'll sing anything she's told to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    And approximately 1 million Iraqis and thousands of Brits and Yanks would still be alive.

    ......the vast, vast majority of them killed by Iraqi/Iranian/Jordanian/Syrian bombers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    ......the vast, vast majority of them killed by Iraqi/Iranian/Jordanian/Syrian bombers.

    Not even remotely true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    Not even remotely true.

    There are none so blind............

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    The current 'democratic' puppet regime tortures and jails people for making public protests such as throwing a shoe. It should also be noted that Saddam was a vehicle of Western regional interests as well, playing 'enemy of my enemy' doesn't work.

    Aside from the estimated 1 million dead which JCSkinner mentions, the country's assets have been sold off to a select group of clientele chosen by Washington, their oil assets are primed for extraction on the basis of satisfying the needs of Western oil corporations, their country is festering with militias, Islamists, corrupticons. The people have been completely disempowered and dissent is impossible (dissent is something you only hear about when it is working in the interests of strategic Western interests, once they achieve their only objective (installing a puppet) the Iraqi peoples' anger and rage at injustice continues but you won't hear much about it in the Western media anymore. Incidentally i remember the Sunday Independent letters page, when Abu Graib story broke the Indo was mocking the revelations and some US woman sent in a letter comparing the torture to attending a Britney Spears concert, they gave her 'star letter' and a case of whiskey. That's the level of the media generally when it comes to the rights and wrongs of issues, they have yet to apologise for their role in acting as cheerleaders for a completely discredited war (discredited in every way but especially according to it's original Casus Belli WMD), the 1 million deaths is something you won't hear about in their pages. The new thugs in charge run torture chambers same as Saddam did and the dice are loaded when it comes to the matter of who gets into power even if they call it a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    The people have been completely disempowered and dissent is impossible

    The "No Blood for Oil" brigade just will not give up. Why don't you tell us about the "dissent" possible under Sadaam. At least the Iraqi people can vote for the candidate of their choice. No 99.9% outcomes now I will warrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    The "No Blood for Oil" brigade just will not give up. Why don't you tell us about the "dissent" possible under Sadaam. At least the Iraqi people can vote for the candidate of their choice. No 99.9% outcomes now I will warrant.
    Well in democracy if you can fix it so all of the candidates support your agenda then that's a guaranteed 100% for you by my reckoning, so many people make the mistake of assuming all the power and influence lies with the faces that run for 'elections' assuming no power behind the scenes. The entire episode was a fraud and made monkeys out of a lot of people (the Saddam is 'evil', let's attack the 'evil' brigade), yourself too i'd guess.

    Personally i derive some cold satisfaction from the way it has discredited them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    There are none so blind............
    Think about it.

    The Lancet in Oct 06 said 600,000 were dead as a result of the war. People scoffed at that number. However the British MOD said the methodology used by the Lancet researchers was correct. Iraq was 25 million people in 1990 now it's 22million. That 3 million dead Iraqis.

    How many suicide bombers would it take to kill 1.5 million people? Say, killing 50 people at a time.

    300,000. US forces killed an estimated 30,000 people in Fallujah.

    Fallujah, The Hidden Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Graphic visual footage of the weapons allegedly being fired from helicopters into urban areas is displayed, as well as detailed footage of the remains of those apparently killed by these weapons, including children and women. The filmmakers interview ex US military soldier Jeff Englehart of Colorado who discusses the American use of white phosphorus, nicknamed "Willie Pete" (codification of "WP" - White Phosphorus) by U.S. servicemembers, in built-up areas, and describes the Fallujah offensive as "just a massive killing of Arabs."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
    The Lancet in Oct 06 said 600,000 were dead as a result of the war. People scoffed at that number. However the British MOD said the methodology used by the Lancet researchers was correct. Iraq was 25 million people in 1990 now it's 22million. That 3 million dead Iraqis.
    no, thats an idiot jumping to conclusions.

    No chance that some of them emigrated ? No, they were all murdered by the evil forces of US imperialism. That how the claptrap goes ?

    As for the civilian dead, a major strategy used in the middle east is the firing of rockets from civilian locations in order to achieve higher civilian casualties. E.g. Hamas. It's all about winning the PR battle. Dead kids are the optimal outcome.

    If your argument is that Iraq is such a backward islamic sh1thole that democracy is impossible, just say so, but stop this pathetic anti-us crusade.

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