Is Irish Left comparable with Nazi Ideology?

[JollyRedGiant]

Maybe they do, but but those different positions realise as one and only solution, blame Israel!

- The stated position of the Socialist Party -

The root cause of the problem in the middle-east is the inability of capitalism to solve the national question (as in Ireland and every other part of the ex-colonial world). The Israeli state (as it exists now serves the purposes of US Imperialism and maintains a foothold for US Imperialism in the region.

This does not mean -

and yes, the difference is wheather they accept Israel now, with the intention that Israel will cease to exist as jewish state, or that jews don't have the right to exist as a nation.

The Socialist Party supports the right of the Israeli working class to self-determination just as it supports the right of the Palestinian working class to self-determination. Indeed the interests of the Israeli working class are not represented by the right-wing leadership in Israel (and I include the LP in that) - the interests of the Palestinian working class are not represented by Hamas or Fatah - and the only solution is united action by the Israeli and Palestinian working classes to establish a socialist Israel and a socialist Palestine working in free and democratic federation together in the interests of all working class people in the region.

[yanshuf]

I'm an Israeli working class, and I am perfectly represented by LP.

As for the right of Israelis to self determination, when you organise a boycott call, when you try to harm Israelis - working class or not - it's far from being legitimate in my eyes. It contradicts the recognition in our right to self-determination and it's trying to interfere with internal matters of a democratic state.

What you do in Ireland, with the delegimisation of Israel, if we did it here, it would be considered an incitement.

The small chats - comparing us to Nazis intentionally, not Chinese, Russians, Zimbabwean, Turkish or any other nationalities, only Israelis specifically - are an attempt to outcast Israel, while you have many many others in the world worse than Israel, but most of them are close to the Left.

The Irish left getting closer to dictatorships and dark movements in the world, does make unfriendly gestures towards Israel.

It is a manner of behaviour, that is quite common to the European left, but in Ireland it turns a little more extreme.

[yanshuf]

What we see in the last day is a display of alleged care to the dead children in Gaza.

The Irish Left is allegedly outraged from what happened in the UN-run school, while of course ignores the facts that Hamas used it as a launching place for its missiles.

The posters here are hypocrite, as kids in former Zair die brutally (much more brutally) everyday, and there's nothing about it here.

But, oh, the children of Palestine, the women of Palestine etc.

Those are in a war zone and it happnes that in a war people die.

You, the leftist posters, are funny and pathetic. YOU DON'T REALLY CARE.

Get it through your mauscle between your ears!

[ChiefOhara]

What we see in the last day is a display of alleged care to the dead children in Gaza.

The Irish Left is allegedly outraged from what happened in the UN-run school, while of course ignores the facts that Hamas used it as a launching place for its missiles.

The posters here are hypocrite, as kids in former Zair die brutally (much more brutally) everyday, and there's nothing about it here.

But, oh, the children of Palestine, the women of Palestine etc.

Those are in a war zone and it happnes that in a war people die.

You, the leftist posters, are funny and pathetic. YOU DON'T REALLY CARE.

Get it through your mauscle between your ears!

Its pretty obvious that you don't care much what happens to them either.

[yanshuf]

Israel's inactivity until this late operation was for the reason it's most densly populated areas in the world.

And I think it showed that we respected their lives more than they did.

But enough is enough. And since there was no outcry for Hamas to stop its missile attacks against Israeli civilians, it obliged us to do something.

Those who are now posting vociferously anti-Israeli threads are those who never said anything about Hamas Qassam rockets. And if they said, it was something like, it's not killing anyone.

They knew that eventually Israel would take action.

[yanshuf]

Back to the issue of this thread:

Asi-irish (another thread):

The world should wipe the zionist regime off the face of the earth.

Shows Exactly what the Irish Left is. The lust for the blood of Jews is an innate characteristic in this community.

[hopi watcher]

Back to the issue of this thread:

Asi-irish (another thread):




Shows Exactly what the Irish Left is. The lust for the blood of Jews is an innate characteristic in this community.

Not jews, those how are engaged in the orgy of murder and mayhem. If the Jewish faith means anything any more they would expell those engaged in this barbarity.

[yanshuf]

Not jews, those how are engaged in the orgy of murder and mayhem

and what would you think we should have done? Let barrages of rockets on our towns?

This was and still is unacceptable in any country, but Israel must accept it.

[Mr.De-Regulation]

- The stated position of the Socialist Party -

The root cause of the problem in the middle-east is the inability of capitalism to solve the national question (as in Ireland and every other part of the ex-colonial world). The Israeli state (as it exists now serves the purposes of US Imperialism and maintains a foothold for US Imperialism in the region.

This does not mean -
The Socialist Party supports the right of the Israeli working class to self-determination just as it supports the right of the Palestinian working class to self-determination. Indeed the interests of the Israeli working class are not represented by the right-wing leadership in Israel (and I include the LP in that) - the interests of the Palestinian working class are not represented by Hamas or Fatah - and the only solution is united action by the Israeli and Palestinian working classes to establish a socialist Israel and a socialist Palestine working in free and democratic federation together in the interests of all working class people in the region.

Holy Jesus super face.

You must really people over in the Middle east if think this a good suggestion.

[Mr.De-Regulation]

It contradicts the recognition in our right to self-determination and it's trying to interfere with internal matters of a democratic state.

So was it wrong for France to call for the stop of the Nazi holocaust? After all they were trying to interfere with internal matters of a "democratic state".