Is Irish Left comparable with Nazi Ideology?

[L'Chaim]

Not this again.....

I also dont like republicanism. That does not mean that I hate my family who are republican supporters.

You can try your best to make it look like I hate all Jews but the fact is I dont.

If I did, I would tell you.

But you didn't say you don't like Zionism (though I assume you don't). You made it about the people. You said you don't like Zionists. Can you not see the difference? You said uou "call members of the Zionist party Zionists" and you went on to say you "don't like them". What you are doing is lumping all Zionists together, be that past and present israeli governments, the main opposition parties and all their supporters, who would be almost to the 100% Israeli Jews. You don't like them. Then there's most of the Jews living outside of Israel who would mostly be Zionists too. You don't like them. The non-Jews around the world who are also Zionists, you don't like them. Now that is an irrational dislike and it's based in racism. You are the one who made it about the people instead of the political ideal.

That's whay I asked about your age a while ago. I get the impression that you are very young and you can't see the difference between Zionism and Zionists. But it's something you should look at.

[Fermoy]

In religious terms yes you can and Israel has tried to use religion as a reason behind its state but that does not remove the fact that there is indeed a Jewish race of people.

To state otherwise shows incredible ignorance. To be honest is a society still very aware of the Holocaust such ignorance must surely be rooted in downright stupidity.

Ever heard of the term (anti-)semitic? It describes discrimination against Jewish people (though should also include arabs...) based in ethnicity. Please check your facts. "Jew" is both an ethnic and religious term both of which mean entirely different things.

Such a plastic term jew eh .
Anyone can join the religion , so that makes them a jew , and then Abracadabra , they are a member of the jewish race , and then Hey Presto , they have a right of return to their 'ancestral homeland' .
And it has always been so .

So , tell us again this fairy tale about the 'jewish race' .

[yanshuf]

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I work with a computer you muppet. I can connect pretty much whenever I want.

We'll have to put "urine fetish" on your ever extending list of faults.
Because I don't let bigots get away with posting racist bile again and again unchallenged I'm left? Because I don't let you hide behind your religion or your nationality as an excuse for your narrow minded hate?

I emphasized one of your funniest sentences.

It could have had a bit of seriousness, if not coming from a hypocrite.

I don't hide behind anything, you, though, try to hide behind the antizionist cloak, when it's obvious you deny Jewish right to self determination, a thing that without any doubt makes you an antisemite. Yet, you're not in denial, cause you know quite well what the meaning of your posts is.

You'd better crawl quietly back into your den and make noises of a carpet.

[L'Chaim]

Such a plastic term jew eh .
Anyone can join the religion , so that makes them a jew , .

Oh it's not as simple as that. It is extremely difficult to convert to Judaism....and rightly so. I'm sure there's some unscrupulous people who will fast track a conversion, but if you want to become Jewish and have everything done by the book, it takes a very long time. And even then after you convert there are certain sects of Judaism that don't recognise you as being Jewish. Simply put; Jews aren't in the business of looking for converts. They recommend you stay the religion you are or find some other religion that might suit your needs.

[Fermoy]

Oh yes I'm sure you could have compared him to a lot of things................but you didn't. You knew exactly what you were doing by comparing an Israeli Jew to Nazis, comparing him to the Nazi executioners who used the Zyklon B, being the reason that men joined the Nazis and the SS etc. Oh yes, you could have done a lot of things, but you didn't. You went for the comparison that would cause the most hurt to a Jew, the comparison that would be the most offensive to a Jew. And you deliberately set out to do that. Yes, you could have done a lot of things.......but you chose to use remarks and insults for the purpose of violating a Jewish person's dignity..........and that makes you an anti-Semite. And believe me, that's not something I accuse people of at the drop of a hat. I happen to think being an anti-Semite is one of the worst things a person can be.

Stop sniveling L'Chaim . Truth is truth.

Why should anybody be concerned about offending zionists . If they want to act like their heros and teachers , the nazi SS , then they deserve all that the Righteous world throws at them.


The matter is settled , L'Chaim is an Unprincipled Liar.

[Fermoy]

Oh it's not as simple as that. It is extremely difficult to convert to Judaism....and rightly so. I'm sure there's some unscrupulous people who will fast track a conversion, but if you want to become Jewish and have everything done by the book, it takes a very long time. And even then after you convert there are certain sects of Judaism that don't recognise you as being Jewish. Simply put; Jews aren't in the business of looking for converts. They recommend you stay the religion you are or find some other religion that might suit your needs.

See , it's up there in black and white , anyone can join the jewish religion .

And then comes the lie of the right of return .

A total corruption of the word return tho .
In reality , you have to have actually been somewhere , to return to that place .

But then , we are talking about zionists here .
They have given themselves a special dispensation re. the telling of truth.

[yanshuf]

The matter is settled , L'Chaim is an Unprincipled Liar.

Someone's hurt. When farmboy resorts to such words, it's only because he's exposed.

[Fermoy]

L'Chaim takes a break and Yanshuf shows up. You working the night shift now.
Tag team trolling, that's a new one.

Hey , its a job ,
and someone in the israeli propaganda ministry has to do it .
And it will be considered a plum on too.
A cowards prize position .
No threat from stone throwing native kids in that bunker .

[Fermoy]

..... you can't see the difference between Zionism and Zionists. .....

How is this for the droppings of a twisted mind

[L'Chaim]

See , it's up there in black and white , anyone can join the jewish religion .

And then comes the lie of the right of return .

A total corruption of the word return tho .
In reality , you have to have actually been somewhere , to return to that place .

But then , we are talking about zionists here .
They have given themselves a special dispensation re. the telling of truth.

So all the palestinian refugees who were born in the last 60 years and who have never actually set foot on one piece of Israel, can't actually return to that place.......on account of them never having been there. Fermoy you're a genius. Not only have you shown us that Israel's aid from the US in the 25 years from 49 - 74 was a pittance and the Arabs got three times as much as well as getting aid from Asia, EU, Eastern Europe and Russia....which israel couldn't get, but you now show why Palestinian refugees have no argument or dispute with israel about returning. After all they were never actually there, and "in reality, you have to have actually been somewhere, to return to that place". Fermoy, I said it before and I'll say it again - you're a true and real friend of Israel. Thank you so much.