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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    Israel doesn't have to condemn stuff, it's not a member of the Higher Moral Standardisation Committee, like the Irish Left.

    The double standard is not from the side of Israel. It's from your side who's very fast to condemn Israel for its defensive steps, and gives support to terrorists.

    If you try to show a higher moral stance, it's not helpful to be a hypocrite, especially when you focus only on one state in the world.
    EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS.
    Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang. Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with the advent of the British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of 60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force, numbering about 6000.
    The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists, and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability. In 1939, one of Irgun’s commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to 300 dangerous fanatics.
    SOME EARLY EXAMPLES OF JEWISH-ZIONIST TERROR.
    August 20, 1937 – June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.
    November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).
    November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
    July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.
    October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
    June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
    September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p. 8 )
    December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
    December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.
    December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
    December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
    December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
    1947 — 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel’s borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.
    January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.
    January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
    January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.
    January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.
    January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
    December 13, 1947 — February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
    February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..
    March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.
    March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
    March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
    April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
    April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
    April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
    May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
    May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
    April 25, 1948 — May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

    THE SS PATRIA.
    November 25, 1940. In September, 1940, around 3,000 Jewish refugees from Vienna, Prague and Danzig were attempting to reach Palestine. In a convoy of four river steamers, they set sail down the Danube and reached the Romanian port of Tulcea where they transferred to three Greek cargo ships named Atlantic, Pacific and Milos. Conditions on board these three ships were horrendous, reminiscent of Japanese hell-ships later in the war. Eventually the ships reached Palestinian waters, but the British Colonial Office refused them permission to land. It was finally decided to deport the refugees to the island of Mauritius where a special camp was to be built. The three ships were then brought into Haifa harbour where the liner Patria was berthed. The refugees were then embarked on the Patria and as the last passengers from the Atlantic were coming on board, a tremendous explosion ripped the liner apart. The death toll amounted to 267 refugees killed. The explosion was the work of the Jewish underground army, the Haganah, who had meant only to damage the ship to prevent it sailing but had miscalculated the amount of explosives needed to disable the ship. Many say that this was no miscalculation and was deliberate murder of Jews by Jews, in an attempt to influence British immigration policy to Palestine.

    A LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS.
    The first act of air piracy in the history of civil aviation was carried out by Israel, in Dec. 1954, when a civilian Syrian airliner was forced down in Tel Aviv and its passengers and crew held for days, despite international condemnation. In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 civilian airliners at Beirut airport in Lebanon. The first deliberate shooting down a civilian airliner was carried out by Israel, when a Libyan airliner was shot down by Israeli jet fighters over Sinai, in Feb. 1973, on the direct orders of Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, killing all 107 of its passengers and the entire French crew.

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    You mean you'll keep posting tedious shïte until no-one will read the thread any more.
    You've claimed the Palestinians are not a people. Palestinians (or non entities as you would have it) are Arabs. Arabs are semites so you, Irony's bïtch, are an anti-semite.

    You'd better confess it now, cause if not, it will just prolong the process, but the outcome will be the same.
    Now, now Yanshuf. We've been through this before. You're being an...



    That 'outcome' by the way will be you blathering in circles, spouting your racist bile and being humiliated time and time again. It also is a great example of the narrow minded hate that is Zionism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    Of all countries in the world, she picked the easiest.

    And next you'd tell me she's not antisemitic.
    She has been involved in peaceful human rights campaigns all over the world for 40 years.

    The forces of only one state have shot her.

    Join the dots yourself.

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    She has been involved in peaceful human rights campaigns all over the world for 40 years.

    The forces of only one state have shot her.

    Join the dots yourself.
    Well I did, and nothing changed. She has one campaign and it's against Israel.

    I'd see her staying alive in a protest in China. That would be a great show, or the brutal Russian police.
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    That 'outcome' by the way will be you blathering in circles, spouting your racist bile and being humiliated time and time again. It also is a great example of the narrow minded hate that is Zionism.
    My my, someone is a little bit mad!

    איסטרא בלגינא קיש קיש קריא!
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    No Yanshuf, it's not anger. I just don't like you. Every one's intiitled to their point of view but you really have shown yourself to be a hate filled bigot, as is your right. But you're trying to spread your particular brand of hate, and that I don't like either. What ever about Zionism, you yourself have shown yourself to be no better than an Nazi. Were you born at a different time in a different place, you would have been the man in teh black uniform dropping the can of Zyclone B into the 'showers'. You would have been the man clearing the ghetto because your justifications are the same as theirs were. These people have no right to be here and no rights full stop. You're the other side of the same coin and oh how the world has turned.
    I hope you appreciate the irony as the humour has all but gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    Well I did, and nothing changed. She has one campaign and it's against Israel.

    I'd see her staying alive in a protest in China. That would be a great show, or the brutal Russian police.
    She has had one campaign?


    You clown. She has a nobel peace prize ffs.

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    No Yanshuf, it's not anger. I just don't like you. Every one's intiitled to their point of view but you really have shown yourself to be a hate filled bigot, as is your right. But you're trying to spread your particular brand of hate, and that I don't like either. What ever about Zionism, you yourself have shown yourself to be no better than an Nazi. Were you born at a different time in a different place, you would have been the man in teh black uniform dropping the can of Zyclone B into the 'showers'. You would have been the man clearing the ghetto because your justifications are the same as theirs were. These people have no right to be here and no rights full stop. You're the other side of the same coin and oh how the world has turned.
    I hope you appreciate the irony as the humour has all but gone.
    I do appreciate the humour, though. This is a mgnificent post, making fun of yourself.


    You and the Irish Left are one big sham, with no other purpose but to ram Israel, and you proved it time after time, and I'm glad you did this, you showed the real snake behind the benign charade of the Human Rights campaigners, who regard this issue fluidly, when it comes to Israeli lives.

    You showed your hypocrisy throughout this thread, and you tell me I'm a bigot.

    Have a look at your words, then preach. lol!
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    Yanshuf you seem to be living in a different universe than everyone else. I'm simply pointing out that you have the same mentality that drove men to join the Nazis and the SS. Anyone who reeads back the thead will see this from the way you have described Palestinians. 70 years ago it was the Jews, Gypsies, Gays and Political enemies but tomorrow, if it were the Palestinians, you would be the same. Though perhaps you'd just be signing death warrants rather than going out and getting your hands dirty.
    I say the humour has all but gone because this isn't about like posting funny pictures. It's not even about Zionism or Israel. It's you, personaly. If you were Muslim you would be a Jihadist. El Savadorian during the 80's you would have been in the death squads, a German in the 1940's and you would have been a Nazi.
    You are a blind bigot, racist, a hatemonger and an extremist. That has nothing to do with Zionism, Israel, Judaism, Left or Right. It has to do with you. I know nothing will change our mind because people like you will twist reality to suit themselves because the truth may cause your house of cards belief system to come crashing down around your ears.
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    Yanshuf you seem to be living in a different universe than everyone else. I'm simply pointing out that you have the same mentality that drove men to join the Nazis and the SS. Anyone who reeads back the thead will see this from the way you have described Palestinians. 70 years ago it was the Jews, Gypsies, Gays and Political enemies but tomorrow, if it were the Palestinians, you would be the same. Though perhaps you'd just be signing death warrants rather than going out and getting your hands dirty.
    I say the humour has all but gone because this isn't about like posting funny pictures. It's not even about Zionism or Israel. It's you, personaly. If you were Muslim you would be a Jihadist. El Savadorian during the 80's you would have been in the death squads, a German in the 1940's and you would have been a Nazi.
    You are a blind bigot, racist, a hatemonger and an extremist. That has nothing to do with Zionism, Israel, Judaism, Left or Right. It has to do with you. I know nothing will change our mind because people like you will twist reality to suit themselves because the truth may cause your house of cards belief system to come crashing down around your ears.
    It's got to do with the reflexion of your kind of posters.

    There wouldn't have been any need to this thread, if posters like you hadn't had the audacity to preach what to do with Israel, how to get rid of the zionists and how much an Israeli civilian life is worth.

    I'm no bigot, I am though very protective of my rights.

    Saying the so called "Palestinian" people is an invention intent to undermine any right the Jews have to the land is not being a bigot, but rather stating the truth.

    Wwhen you use "zionist" in a derogatory way, it says everything about you.

    You want to eat the cake and leave it as a whole, but your posts don't allow you that.

    Going along your lines, I think you with no second thought would have supported Chemberline's appeasement regarding the Munich agreements.

    That's typical of the Left, criticise everyone who criticises you.
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