Is Irish Left comparable with Nazi Ideology?

[yanshuf]

As for the other claims, there is no other explanation, but the innate one, for the obsession of the Irish Left as a whole, not individually, with Israel!

[Podolski]

If you bothered to get your facts right it would be worth debating with you. What is at stake is not Israel's right to exist, but Palestine's. Israel has once again shown it has absolutely no respect for Palestine's right to exist or even of the Palestinian people to exist. It's actions in Gaza are very similar to the way the Nazi's herded Jews into the Warsaw ghetto and then began to exterminate them.

Israel must stop acting like the Third Reich.

[yanshuf]

in Gaza are very similar to the way the Nazi's herded Jews into the Warsaw ghetto and then began to exterminate them.

It's a war zone and as such it looks like people are at war.

As for this stupid accusation, had we done that, we wouldn't have sent in troops, we would not risk our people to exterminate them, if this claim held water.

[yanshuf]

What is at stake is not Israel's right to exist, but Palestine's.

this is not even "Palestine"'s right to exist but Hamas Government's.

You think just the way I said, twistedly and manipulatively.

[Thranduil]

Yes. The Irish Left does not recognise Israel's right to exist, but it surpasses itself when it doesn't even recognise the Jews' right for self determination.

While it does recognise other nations to do so.

The Irish Left holds a two-dimensional concept with no depth, that is, of the conflict. Somewhat childish concept, according to which Israel is to blame for everything that is bad and wrong in the whole world.

The Irish left does its best to demonise and delegitimise Israel, its right to exist and its right for self defence.

Well, it seems it's not just Hamas we have to live with, maybe it's even more unfortunate that we have to live with this anomaly from the Left too.

I would have thought Israel was more compatible itself. The similarities include racial dehumanisation of races deemed undermenschen, the denial of basic rights such as right to property (the bulldozing of Palestinian homes, use of legal means to evacuate Palestinian settlements etc), right to freedom (arbitrary detention for long periods, applied even to children) to Palestinians. The commitment to develop a racially exclusive state in Israel which they do not hide, they boast of a 'Jewish State'. When they resort to military means they go too far and their attacks are often indiscriminate - Hitler had Guernica and the Israelis have Gaza, 48, Sabra etc.

Nobody here i think wants to place Jews in Israel and Palestine below Arabs, instead what they want is equality and mutual respect across the board. Hitler never wanted this, he advocated racial and religious superiority for key groups, backed up by violence, intimidation, expulsion and murder. I think the 'Irish left' owing to Ireland's history and Irish people's suffering under very similiar ideologies in the past is more likely to recognise Israeli actions for what they are, the US for example (and on the other hand) was created by genocide and ethnic cleansing, it was a colony and they glorify this foundation in film - so it is harder perhaps to make them see the wrongness in this.

Australia has a similiar attitude and still sees the aborigines as a problem.

The Irish left is an anomaly in the human social evolution, and it's best shown in the conspiracy theories it makes up. It must be a built-in genetic defect that makes people here behave like Hamas is the most humane terror group on earth.

So Ve are Genetically deficient!? Zat ist veey interezting Sztatement.

[yanshuf]

So Ve are Genetically deficient!? Zat ist veey interezting Sztatement.

Actually yes, you are.

The commitment to develop a racially exclusive state in Israel which they do not hide, they boast of a 'Jewish State'. When they resort to military means they go too far and their attacks are often indiscriminate - Hitler had Guernica and the Israelis have Gaza, 48, Sabra etc.

As for the issue of a Jewish state compared to the world, there is Japan, which is not open to others, there is Armenia - as an ethnic state, there's the Vatican, as a religious state, there's Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Iran which all have religious platform to their constitutions.

In Saudi Arabi non muslims are not even allowed in, especially into Mecca.

So bla bla bla - Israel, as usual. Fixation called Israel. Nothing new.

[The Celtic Chimp]

Israel has every right to exist, whether or not it has a right to the west bank is open to debate and it most certainly doesn't have the right to bomb the crap out of the Palestinians every time Hamas launches a rocket. Terrorism conducted by a state is no less wrong. Perhaps more so as it blurs the lines and tries to lend some legitimacy to the tactic of inflicting punitive casualties.

[Riadach]

Riadach:



You do know that I am Israeli, or you try to ignore that fact, as most facts about Israel?

But you're not living in Israel, are you Yanshuf? Otherwise why would you be trying to learn Irish and posting here?

[yanshuf]

every time Hamas launches a rocket

Most certainly not relevant here, cause we did not launch retaliatory attacks, but until it was clear the Hamas, who refuse talking with US, not the other way around (in closed doors) said it would not continue with the cease fire we had.

[yanshuf]

But you're not living in Israel, are you Yanshuf? Otherwise why would you be trying to learn Irish and posting here?

what do you care what I'm interested in?