Is Irish Left comparable with Nazi Ideology?

[cathal maguidhir]

wow there is a lot to learn


1. 'We beg Thee, 0 Lord, inflict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee. Take away, 0 Lord, all hope from them. Destroy all foes of Thy nation.' -Synagaga Judaica, p. 212. Minhagen, p. 23. Crach Chain, 480 Magah.

2. 'The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses.' -- Rabbi Issael, Rabbi Chasbar, et. al.

3. "The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God. Jehovah Himself asks the opinion of the earthly rabbis when there are difficult affairs in heaven." -- Rabbi Menechen Commentary on Fifth Book-

4. "Jehovah Himself studies the Talmud standing, he has such respect for that book." -- Tract Mechillo.

5. "It is more wicked to question the words of the rabbis than those of the Torah." -- Michna Sanhedryn 11:3.

6. 'It is forbidden to disclose the secrets of the law. He who would do it would be as guilty as though he destroyed the whole world." -- Jektat Chadasz, 171, 3.

7. "Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die.', --Sanhedryn, 59a, aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga 13.

8. "To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly." -- Libbre David 37.

9. "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." -- Libbre David 37.

10. "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."--Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Via 17.

11. "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.,, -- Saba Mecia 114, 6.

12. "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." -- Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D.

13. "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.

14. "As soon as the King Messiah will declare himself, He will destroy Rome and make a wilderness of it. Thorns and weeds will grow in the Pope's palace. Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, kill their kings and lay waste the whole Roman land. He will say to the Jews: 'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. Take the silver and gold from the goyim.' .. --Josiah 60, 6. Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.

15. "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." -- .9boda Sarah 37a.

16. "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl." -- &ad. Shas. 2:2.

17. "A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat." --Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan 9ruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

18. "A Jew may misuse the non-Jewess in her state of unbelief." -- Maimonides, Jak. Chasaka 2:2.

19. " IF a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy he is NOT responsible." --Tosefta. 9boda Za,-a 8, 5.

20. "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."--Schuichan Qruch, Choszen Hajpiszpat jog

21. "Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said, 'Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy.' " -- Mishna Sanhedryn 57.

22. "When you go to war do not go as the First, but as the last, so that you may return as the first. Five things has Kanaan recommended to his sons: 'Love each other, love the robbery, hate your masters and never tell the truth.' " -- Pesachis F. 113B.

23. "A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." -- Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia.

24. "A Jew may rob a goy - that is,.he may cheat him in a bill, if unlikely to be perceived by him." -Schalchan Arach, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

25. "If a goy wants a Jew to stand witness against a Jew in a Court of Law, and if the Jew could give fair evidence, he is forbidden to do it; but if a Jew wants a Jew to be a witness in a similar case against a goy, he may do it." -- Schalchan .9ruch, Choszen Hasiszpat 28, Art. 3 and 4.

26. "Those who do not confess the Torah and the Prophets must be killed. Who has the power to kill them, let them kill them openly with the sword. if not, let them use artifices, till they are done away with." -- Schulchan Qruch. Choszon Haviszpat 425.5.

27. "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general' "--Schalchan arach. Choszen Hasisxpat 348.

28. "Should a Jew inform the goyish authorities that another Jew has much money, and the other will suffer a loss through it, he must give him emuneration."--Schalchan Oruch, Choszen Maipiszpat 388

29. 'How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."--Tosefta, Qbda Zara VIRZ, 5.

30. "On the house of the goy one looks as on the fold of cattle." -- Tosefta, Erabin VZZ, 1.

31. "All vows, oaths, promises, engagements, and swearing, which, beginning this very day or reconciliation till the next day of reconciliation, we intend to vow, promise, swear, and bind ourselves to fulfill, we repent of beforehand; let them be illegalized, acquitted, annihilated, abolished, valueless, unimportant. Our vows shall be no vows, and our oaths no oaths at all." -- Schulchan 9ruch, Edit. 1, 136. (The Jewish Kol Nidre ['All Vows"] Oath has been set to a morbid Jewish music, and is often heard on the radio. it is sung as a chant at each Yom Kippur [Jewish New Year] service [September 17].)

32. "Everything a Jew needs for his church ritual no goy is permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings." -- Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaiw 14, 20, 32, 33, 39. TaIDud Jebamoth 61.

33.. "A Jewish mid-wife is not only permitted but she is compelled to help a Jewish mother on Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) and when so doing to do anything which otherwise would desecrate the Saturday. But it is forbidden to help a non-Jewish woman even if it should be possible to help her without desecrating the Saturday, because she is to be considered only as an animal." -- Schulchan gruch, Orach Chaim 330.

34. "At the time of the Cholhamoed the transaction of any kind of business is forbidden. But it is permitted to cheat a goy, because cheating of goyim at any time pleases the Lord." --Chuichan Qruch, Orach ChaiD 539.

35. "The Jews are strictly Forbidden to cheat their brothers and it is considered cheating already if onesixth of the value has been taken away from him. Whoever has cheated his brother has to return it to him. Naturally all that only holds towards the Jew, to cheat a goy he is permitted and he is not permitted to return to him what he cheated him out of. Because the Bible says: 'Thou shalt not cheat thy next brother,' but the non-Jews are not our brethren, but as mentioned above, worse than dogs." -- aruch hoszen Haniszpat 227

[imokyrok]

Israel operation has now ended in failure and that may be a bad thing, Hamas is still firing rockets, hundred of children killed in Gaza, Israel has to stop now for fear of offending the new president. Israel has lost support around the world.

I'm finding some mixed reports on the truce - any good links?

[Twilight]

I'm Irish, suppose to be Catholic and I lived in Saudi Arabia for almost 3 years, alongside Americans, English, Germans, etc. Most of us were Christians I think or atheists. So stop telling lies Yanshuf, Saudi Arabia does let non-muslims in. I'll let you into a secret however, if you want to get into Israel, even for a holiday, and they spot the Saudi stamp on your passport, out you go, back to the plane. So do what we did. We used our Irish Passports for Israel and our English ones for Saudi.

Why can you not accept that Israel is a bloody disgrace and because of its cruel, heartless actions, anti-semitic morons have grown by the millions. And being left wing or right wing has nothing to do with anything. But humans with a heart does however.

[cathal maguidhir]

o chosen ones where are you

13. "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.

[cathal maguidhir]

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
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Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g., gas chambers), or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
Contemporary examples of anti-Semitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

* Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
* Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as a collective - such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
* Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
* Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g., gas chambers), or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
* Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
* Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

Examples of the ways in which anti-Semitism manifests itself with regard to the state of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:

* Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination (e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor).
* Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
* Using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
* Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
* Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.

[yanshuf]

I'm Irish, suppose to be Catholic and I lived in Saudi Arabia for almost 3 years, alongside Americans, English, Germans, etc. Most of us were Christians I think or atheists. So stop telling lies Yanshuf, Saudi Arabia does let non-muslims in. I'll let you into a secret however, if you want to get into Israel, even for a holiday, and they spot the Saudi stamp on your passport, out you go, back to the plane. So do what we did. We used our Irish Passports for Israel and our English ones for Saudi.

Why can you not accept that Israel is a bloody disgrace and because of its cruel, heartless actions, anti-semitic morons have grown by the millions. And being left wing or right wing has nothing to do with anything. But humans with a heart does however.

It's not Israel that does this, but the media.

The Left is the one that controls the media as there are leftist editors and broadcasters. They poison the atmosphere by anti israeli and antisemitic rants.

For 8 years now we have been having numerous attacks against Israeli civilians.

If this brings sympathy, then I'll pass. I prefere not to be attacked daily and live under no threat of terror than any European or other state's sympathy.

You can chose sides, but as soon as you do this, you will have to be loyal to your own convictions, and impose the same standards to everyone, Saudi Aarabia, for example.

The Irish left is a vociferous community, that spreads lies (the poisonous wells, pops up in my mind right now) and helps terror in all kinds of ways.

They have never in the last 8 years expressed their disgust from the Hamas shellings of Israeli civilian. That is certainly a part of their wish to see Israel's destruction, and it prevails in Ireland.

As an Irish you read the Irish papers, the forums (or British ones which are not that different from the Irish ones). You get influenced from that, you don't really know what's going on in the field.

For conclusion, the Irish Left is a well form of a propagandist union, that sees Israel as its main aim.
In the overall account the fact that they supported Hamas, instead of trying to convince them to stop their war crimes, will be remembered negtively in the future as well as in the current crisis.

[JollyRedGiant]

The Left is the one that controls the media as there are leftist editors and broadcasters.

I doubt that you could call the likes of Geraldine Kennedy 'left-'wing' - she was afterall elected to the Dail for the PD's. Despite what you say I could not see Tony O'Reilly voting for the Socialist Party either.

For conclusion, the Irish Left is a well form of a propagandist union, that sees Israel as its main aim.
In the overall account the fact that they supported Hamas, instead of trying to convince them to stop their war crimes, will be remembered negtively in the future as well as in the current crisis.

Again you need to get your FACTS right. The Socialist Party does not - and never has - supported Hamas. The SP supports the rights of working class people - be they Israeli or Palestinian - to self-determination without the mantle of ongoing conflict from the Israeli ruling class or Muslim extremists hanging over their heads.

[yanshuf]

Again you need to get your FACTS right. The Socialist Party does not - and never has - supported Hamas. The SP supports the rights of working class people - be they Israeli or Palestinian - to self-determination without the mantle of ongoing conflict from the Israeli ruling class or Muslim extremists hanging over their heads.

Where was their condemnation of the qassam missiles attacks for 8 years?

I saw they criticise Israel, however, for the war in Gaza.

[merle haggard]

I would disagree with you in part.. while I cannot accept what is happening in Gaza at the moment.. I do accept that the Jewish "people" constitute a "nation" and have as much right to a historical homeland as Irish people for example..

so Irish is a religion now ? you regard your nationality as a religion ? and jews are " people" ( your inverted commas )

??????

[merle haggard]

i find it absolutely bizarre to hear this lunatic zionist now complain the Irish media is run by the left . Absolutely ridiculous

The Irish left does its best to demonise and delegitimise Israel, its right to exist and its right for self defence.

how is herding one hundred women and children into a house and then blowing it up and preventing ambulances from going to the survivors for four days an act of self defence ?

Its an act of nazi barbarity . Describing it as such does not make one a nazi or an anti semite .