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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    I think it's important to note that the UN is not counting men and boys as civilians.
    Maybe it's because they just can't differentiate between civilians and terrorists. And why would that be? Because the terrorists in Gaza likes to blend in with its civilian population, which is against all rules in International law and rules of war etc. These palestinian terrorists put these civilians in harm's way, they do all they can to blend in with civilians and as a result the UN agencies in gaza can't say who are civilians and who are not. And then everyone, including the UN expects Israel to do what they can't do themselves. Talk about holding Israel to a different standard

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Earl of Desmond View Post
    Great article by Ruth Dudley Edwards in the Sindo today. Required reading for the armchair Palestinian apologists.
    That woman spent long enough baying for the downfall of Adams and McGuinness and they are elected leaders today by their own people with increasing majorities, in other words her writings carry no weight just the same as her writings and C.C.O.Briens over the last thirty years in trying isolate Sinn Fein was a failure.

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    I actually think Sky News have been relatively fair on the Gaza invasion. Better than they were for Lebanon anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    More lies by LieChaim - everyone knows that Jewish Zionists pulled out and effectively made Gaza the biggest concentration camp in modern times. Hamas do not target civilians, and regret the bruising of the Granny - perhaps if she had not been there in the first place it wouldn't have happened.
    Excuse me? Israel withdrew from gaza and saw to it that not one single Israeli remained and Israel is to blame?

    But you haven't answered my question. Why did Hamas launch over 5000 rockets at israel after Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas were in total control of the strip. It couldn't have been about land because israel withdrew. it couldn't have been about self-determination because Hamas were in control. It couldn't have been about power sharing because Hamas didn't have to share power. Why did they launch over 5000 rockets at a Israel after Israel withdrew from Gaza? Surely they had a reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    Maybe it's because they just can't differentiate between civilians and terrorists.
    Perhaps that's also why Hamas do not make the distinction, mandatory conscription in the Zionist State means that anyone over the age of 17 can be conscripted. Thank you for your clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    Excuse me? Israel withdrew from gaza and saw to it that not one single Israeli remained and Israel is to blame?

    But you haven't answered my question. Why did Hamas launch over 5000 rockets at israel after Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas were in total control of the strip. It couldn't have been about land because israel withdrew. it couldn't have been about self-determination because Hamas were in control. It couldn't have been about power sharing because Hamas didn't have to share power. Why did they launch over 5000 rockets at a Israel after Israel withdrew from Gaza? Surely they had a reason?
    No, Jewish Zionists pulled out and effectively sealed Gaza off, and placed an embargo on humanitarian aid. You have carpeted the strip with cluster bombs, used depleted uranium and chemical weapons and you have the audacity to equate your barbarity with firing a roman candle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    That woman spent long enough baying for the downfall of Adams and McGuinness and they are elected leaders today by their own people with increasing majorities, in other words her writings carry no weight just the same as her writings and C.C.O.Briens over the last thirty years in trying isolate Sinn Fein was a failure.
    They were only elected after publicly declaring the 'war' was over and that there would be peace. When Hamas and Fatah and Hiz do the same and then get elected fair enough.

    CC O'Brien and RDE chip away tiny bit by tiny at any credibility claimed by terrorist groups like Hamas and the IRA. Are do not believe the IRA were terrorists and do you not believe that Adams and McGuinness has to publicly end their campaign without achieving it's goal?
    So the IRA were defeated and in time so too will the Muslim nutters either by brave countries like Israel bombing them to the point were they can't rebuild or by these ordinary civilian Palestinians we hear so much about turning on Hamas - the way ordinary Ulster people turned on their own home grown terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Earl of Desmond View Post
    The stupidity of people defending any organisation who use terrorist attacks - be it the IRA, ETA or Hamas - stupid people who of course never have to live with those attacks. It's easy to sit in Ireland or leafy west London and blame Israel.
    What's the difference between you or your family being killed by a terrorist attack or being killed in an air strike?

    What's the difference from their victims' perspective between the IDF and Hamas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    No, Jewish Zionists pulled out and effectively sealed Gaza off, and placed an embargo on humanitarian aid. You have carpeted the strip with cluster bombs, used depleted uranium and chemical weapons and you have the audacity to equate your barbarity with firing a roman candle.
    Cluster bombs, depleated uranuim and chemical weapons were used by israel against gaza after they withdrew. Well if that's the reason then Hamas were right to respond with over 5000 rockets launched at israel. I did wonder why Palestinians in Gaza were attacking Israel after Israel withdrew from there. But this did happen though? Can you provide links to these events cos I don't recall even one of them. If you can't provide any sort of proof that Israel were dropping cluster bombs etc. then can you please tell me what reasons Hamas had for launching over 5000 rockets at israeli civilians after Israel withdrew from gaza and left gaza a Jew Free Zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    Cluster bombs, depleated uranuim and chemical weapons were used by israel against gaza after they withdrew. Well if that's the reason then Hamas were right to respond with over 5000 rockets launched at israel. I did wonder why Palestinians in Gaza were attacking Israel after Israel withdrew from there. But this did happen though? Can you provide links to these events cos I don't recall even one of them. If you can't provide any sort of proof that Israel were dropping cluster bombs etc. then can you please tell me what reasons Hamas had for launching over 5000 rockets at israeli civilians after Israel withdrew from gaza and left gaza a Jew Free Zone.
    Oh dear LieChaim you seem flustered, it's not easy trying to vindicate the terrorist Zionist state, is it? As you and every other Jewish Zionist know, pulling out and sealing Gaza was the catalyst for reprisals. You simply cannot expect people to sit idly by and allow you and your kind to decimate the population. Hamas have an obligation to defend its people from Zionist aggression whether it be an economic blockade or military action. Frankly I commend Hamas for their restraint, they have endured much and were pushed to the edge. The Zionist State is responsible for every Zionist civilian that dies in the occupied land of Palestine. I might also add that your deliberate embedding of military personnel (everyone over the age of 17) in towns and villages is a reprehensible act, putting the lives of civilians at risk while you carry out operations.

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