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    British police to get 'war-time' power to demand ID in the street.

    Big Brother police to get 'war-time' power to demand ID in the street - on pain of sending you to jail

    By James Slack
    Last updated at 3:44 PM on 03rd December 2008

    State officials are to be given powers previously reserved for times of war to demand a person's proof of identity at any time.

    Anybody who refuses the Big Brother demand could face arrest and a possible prison sentence.

    The new rules come in legislation unveiled in today's Queen's Speech.

    They are presented as a crackdown on illegal immigration, but lawyers say they could be applied to anybody who has ever been outside the UK, even on holiday.

    The civil rights group Liberty, which analysed clauses from the new Immigration and Citizenship Bill, called them an attempt to introduce compulsory ID cards by the back door.

    The move would effectively take Britain back to the Second World War, when people were stopped and asked to 'show their papers'.

    Liberty said: 'Powers to examine identity documents, previously thought to apply only at ports of entry, will be extended to criminalise anyone in Britain who has ever left the country and fails to produce identity papers upon demand.

    'We believe that the catch-all remit of this power is disproportionate and that its enactment would not only damage community relations but represent a fundamental shift in the relationship between the State and those present in the UK.'
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    They are bringing ID cards in through the front door too, so it should be no surprise.

    Does this mean we will have to carry our Irish passports with us at all times while in the UK (including Northern Ireland)?
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    ^ I'd imagine so.

    Like I asked in another thread, does anyone know anything to do towards resisting it being forced upon us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itstoolateforplacebos View Post
    ^ I'd imagine so.

    Like I asked in another thread, does anyone know anything to do towards resisting it being forced upon us?
    Leave the UK. Move to Ireland along with the thousands of illegals who will be chased out of the UK to Ireland - the only neighbouring country with no border control and no id checks.
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    when i said "forced upon us", I meant us Irish.

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    psssh, freedom and privacy were rubbish anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itstoolateforplacebos View Post
    when i said "forced upon us", I meant us Irish.
    In what way is it being forces on us? Just don't go to the UK.
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    Like I asked in another thread, does anyone know anything to do towards resisting it being forced upon us?
    (for people in the UK)
    Refusal on a grand scale is the obvious answer. Make this naziesque ID scheme unworkable. If enough people refuse to be treated like cattle and voice their disapproval they will have a chance of defeating this disgusting infringement of civil liberties, if people sit back and accept it then things can only get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFugazi View Post
    (for people in the UK)
    Refusal on a grand scale is the obvious answer. Make this naziesque ID scheme unworkable. If enough people refuse to be treated like cattle and voice their disapproval they will have a chance of defeating this disgusting infringement of civil liberties, if people sit back and accept it then things can only get worse.
    Defo - but its a hard job.

    I helped out in the campaign against the "permit to protest" law organised by Mark Thomas. Thousands of people turned up every week for months, causing major hassel and paperwork for the police.

    The law is still in place. Its still illegal to say the words "I protest" within one Kilometer of Parliament.

    A lot of effort and no result.
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    and here was me thinking the Alex Jones's of this world were nut cases...it's a sad state of affairs when someone like him is proven right.

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