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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorna View Post
    Indeed, but the attacks by Jihadi's are carried out in the name of Islam, they are religious in nature, and intent.
    It is essentially one flawed ideology against another then.

    A "Neo-Conservative" creed of greed, theft and injustice, versus another creed of intolerance and fundamentalism.

    Or is it simply a case of influential and essentially evil people on both sides (of the same coin) instilling fear in order to control?

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    Isn't it amazing the way the media is claiming that the attacks were the work of 'Al-Qaeda' despite the fact that a local group from the Deccan Plateau area of south India called "Deccan Mujahideen" has claimed responsibility. I wonder how long it will be before they suggest that action needs to be taken in Pakistan to put an end to 'Al-Qaeda' attacks in India. One of Mossads media fronts "DEBKAfile" is already on the ball, they are trying to suggest that the attackers originated from Pakistan:

    DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorna View Post
    Terror is not the sole property of any one group. All are equally capable. However the majority of attacks in the world nowadays are carried out by Islamic militants. While I agree that T.V. can be biased, the things you write on this thread, seem to suggest that maybe its only a tv production that we are watching.
    This reads as gibberish.

    Did I say or infer that terror is tangable?

    If it was true that islamic militants carry out most of the attacks rather than just take the blame, you still had to had "militant", so you are talking about a small subset, but if it was true, that would suggest to me that they are the most oppressed, you talk about them as if they are sub human.

    Your semi agreement point about television.. I'm going to assume you mean they aren't fabricating the images just the words, and that in its self is a crime, to mis-inform a populous like that is borderline treasonous.


    "Indeed, but the attacks by Jihadi's are carried out in the name of Islam, they are religious in nature, and intent. "

    If I attack someone in the name of Eorna are you to be punished?


    Clanrickard: Your reasoning is circular, your saying he is a crank because he has marked himself as a crank because he is saying something a crank might and we know this, as a crank said it previous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorna View Post
    Indeed, but the attacks by Jihadi's are carried out in the name of Islam, they are religious in nature, and intent.
    Precisely. But do Muslims leaders try and combat this? NO. The OIC at the UN is trying to put criticism of Islam beyond the pale and give cover the campaign to foist the barabaric Shariah system on the rest of the planet. India in rtandem with the US should give Pakistan a month to arrest the ring leaders and close down ALL fundamentalist Madrassas and Mosques or they will do it for them. Instead of drones a couple of forcefull raids by B52s in nthe Swat valley should hammer home the point. A more robust effort to make the Gulf states clamp down and a miilitary operation to obliterate the Somali jihadis would all make this world a lot safer for normal people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    What a joke. There are no Christian states. Western democracies are pluralist nations which don't define themselves religously. That stands in contrast to Islamic nations. Your assertion about 9/11 and London mark you out as a crank not to be taken seriously. While innocent people are slaughtered by Islamic fanatics the tinfoil hat brigade wallow in the pools of moral relativism. Disgraceful.
    My assertion that the attacks were never properly investigated, you mean? Well, where they?

    You know, Clanrickard, I like to question everything. I take nothing at face value.

    Note that I placed the word Christian in quotation marks. The states in question are majority Christian, and many people identify themselves to some degree with Christianity. Is the US not a majority Christian state? Don't its leaders fall over themselves to prove what good Christians they are whenever they get the chance? Is Israel not one of only 2 states in the world established primarily on the basis of religion?

    Religion doesn't really matter. It is simply a tool used to control people anyway. Most of the people who rely on religion as the basis of their power don't practice their religions themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asi-Irish View Post
    My assertion that the attacks were never properly investigated, you mean? Well, where they?

    You know, Clanrickard, I like to question everything. I take nothing at face value.
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    No you are a left wiong moral relativist who tries to excuse Islam for the misery it is causing. There is no room for ifs and buts when facing down Al Qadea and affiliate groups. No should there be any let up in identifying the "snaekin regarders" amongst the Islamic community the world over. 9/11 and London were carried out by Muslims believing it to be their solemn religous duty. We need no more investigation to know this as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFugazi View Post
    Isn't it amazing the way the media is claiming that the attacks were the work of 'Al-Qaeda' despite the fact that a local group from the Deccan Plateau area of south India called "Deccan Mujahideen" has claimed responsibility. I wonder how long it will be before they suggest that action needs to be taken in Pakistan to put an end to 'Al-Qaeda' attacks in India. One of Mossads media fronts "DEBKAfile" is already on the ball, they are trying to suggest that the attackers originated from Pakistan:

    DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
    You are obsessed with the jews. No one has ever heard of Deccan Mujahideen before, it is a cover name. Why do people not believe that Arabs or Asain muslims are capable of carrying out these actions. Are you so anti asian, that you believe that only the Jews and Americans can do anything. I dislike the people who did this and the ideology that drives them, I do not underestimate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    No you are a left wiong moral relativist who tries to excuse Islam for the misery it is causing. There is no room for ifs and buts when facing down Al Qadea and affiliate groups. No should there be any let up in identifying the "snaekin regarders" amongst the Islamic community the world over. 9/11 and London were carried out by Muslims believing it to be their solemn religous duty. We need no more investigation to know this as fact.
    I love how you put me into your little box. I am neither Left nor Right, nor am I a terrorist apologist or, to use one of your tattered clichés, a "sneaking regarder".

    I'm just an observer who tries to learn as much as possible and draw my own conclusions.

    I don't feel the need to identify myself with any particular ideology or school of thought, unlike you.

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    Clanrickard: Where do you get your facts and truths?

    I don't believe such a place is attainable. What's your view on what is true?

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    Asi-Irish: He has now fallen back to nearly name calling, saying your obsessed with Jews, I'm getting the impression he's not actually that ignorant and having a laugh with us.

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