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Thread: The coming "crisis" and American totalitarianism

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngdan View Post
    Yes he already has. It is a case of make hay while the Sun shines but I am optimistic. If there is a proposal to introduce a global bank or money system or indeed some funny money issued by the IMF then even the most retarded of Obamobot will wake up.
    Like some of these people....

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    Yes even them because their expectations are so high. Obama will easily be more hated than Bush because few expected much off W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngdan View Post
    Yes even them because their expectations are so high. Obama will easily be more hated than Bush because few expected much off W.
    I hope you're right, but I suspect that human nature being as it is, a lot of people don't like to admit that they have been misled. The biggest swing will most likely come from the vast middle ground of people who had a moderate expectation and weren't too caught up in the hype. The ones that did will continue to defend him to the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abdul View Post
    I can see the problem with ireland now!
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    Ugh ugh... another original thinker.

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    Stitch up in Mexico?

    The destabilistation of Mexico serves the new world order.

    In order for this process to take place, criminal organizations are fostered, subsidized, and protected by high level government officials, in order to launder money throughout the international banking systems and to increase the global cash flow. The IMF has reported in 2003, that 1.5 trillion US dollars a year is [FONT=Verdana]laundered through banks, where 500 to 600 billion dollars of that money is from drug trade and the aggregate size of money laundering in the world could be somewhere between 2 to 5 percent of the world’s GDP. It has also been a well known and documented fact in the press and in congressional records that the US intelligence agencies have dealt and circulated drugs in the US and abroad for many years...[/FONT]

    It would make sense to assume that Mexico is going to become a national security risk for the United States , which in turn will justify our Samaritan military aid and intervention to help the Mexican government contain the Mexican drug cartel. Therefore, Mexico will become a safer place for transnational corporations like Chevron and Exxon-Mobil. In addition, this process will pave the way for the security and prosperity partnership to unravel, as well as the privatization of Mexico ’s oil and natural resources and their takeover by the global corporations. As a result, a massive transfer of wealth and power to the new North American Union Government will unfold.
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    If you want to understand what is happening in Pakistan, use Mexico as a template. Pakistan, like Mexico, a near US pawn is undergoing systemic destabilisation:

    There is in fact a real connection between Mexico and Pakistan that’s worth discussing, though you’d never hear it mentioned in the mainstream media. Both countries have governments that are virtual pawns of the U.S. and, as such, are having a difficult time with their native populations as they attempt to please their real bosses — U.S. mega-corporations and rich investors.

    And these bosses can be demanding. For example, in Pakistan the U.S. dominated International Monetary Fund (IMF) is demanding that Pakistan privatize state-owned banks, railways, power plants, water, insurance, factories, etc. — so that U.S. corporations and investors can buy them at discount rates for private profit.

    In Mexico, the same U.S. groups are lustfully eyeing Mexico’s number one source of national revenue: the state oil company (PEMEX). Mexican companies and natural resources had already been gobbled-up by U.S. corporate vultures long before NAFTA came into effect, though this trade agreement intensified the trend, making it a good place to begin if one is to have any understanding of the current political situation in Mexico.
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    The Red Cross confirms that the treatment of Al Qaida captives "constituted torture."

    And read here about calls for a judicial inquiry into M15's role in facilitating the rendition and torture of terror "suspects" (-it has since come to light that some of these suspects had no links to terrorism of any kind), including the British-Ethiopian, who spent seven years in captivity and endured medieval style tortures.

    Lord Carlile of Berriew QC has accused ministers of providing only a “limited” account of the UK’s role. In comments that will add to the growing political clamour over the issue he called for Gordon Brown to appoint a senior judge to investigate UK complicity “in the rendition of captured men and women to foreign governments”.
    Torture is of course an important tool in the enforcement of totalitarian rule.
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    Mainstreaming the new world order

    Notice Brown's new terminology in his recent meeting with Obama. A new global deal instead of a new world order, the term he has previously favoured. Economic or financial structures are often used as precursors to full political integration within a unified transnational system; this is how the EU came into existence, and how the future North American Union is currently being brought into existence. Although Monnet, Spraak, D'Estaing and the others were clear that it was a system of governance which they were planning (Monnet departed from the League of Nations where he was assistant secretary-general in disgust at its inability to govern the world due to the national vetos), when this proved utterly unacceptable to the European public and many of its leaders, the project was reframed and presented as a proposal for a European economic community- yet Monnet himself designated the original community Europe's first government. Similarly right now with the US. As the US is balkanised along with Mexico and Canada, with its borders broken up, the political revolution is marketed as a mere trade agreement and a series of economic reform to the public.

    So it will be with the ultimate project: the global system of governance controlled by private interests with a monopoly of the world's markets will be masked as financial reform and international cooperation. A "new global deal" formely known as a "new world order" formerly known as a "world government."

    This is not speculation. Ann Cahill, writing last week in the Examiner, described how Barrosso envisioned the "new world order" (her words) as a vast international system of governance, necessitated by the international economic collapse. Surprisingly, he spoke openly about a global government and even mentioned how the founders of the EU considered that this political structure would provide a model for the future world government. So we are now witnessing a softening-up process, a mainstreaming of the new world order. Prince Bernhard's (founder of the Bilderberg Group) concerns about nations' unfortunate attachment to national sovereignty appear to have been sufficiently addressed. The piece is only available in the print edition; at least I could not locate it online.
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    The coming tribulation

    Some details from the major French think-tank LEAP's quarterly report, which a friend translated from the French:

    Le Monde reports that LEAP predicts world geo-political unrest for
    the fourth trimester of 2009.

    - An exodus ('sauve qui peut'- can mean a cry to 'run for your life'
    as well as 'exodus') in countries affected by the crisis.

    - The exodus to be followed by clashes and semi- civil wars.

    - If your country is one where there is a proliferation of fire arms,
    (the US in particular is mentioned) the best thing to do is to leave
    the affected area.

    - The most dangerous zones will be ones where the social welfare
    systems are weak.

    - The crisis will also provoke violent popular revolts worsened by
    the availability of fire arms.

    - Latin America and the US are most at risk.

    - Direct physical danger in Europe will be minor.

    - LEAP has already detected migration from the US to Europe.

    - There will be possible energy, food and water shortages. LEAP
    advises to build up supplies of these. (faire des reserves)

    - Le Monde states how the current crisis was accurately predicted by
    LEAP back in 2006 - a global financial crisis connected to excessive
    American debt, a stock market collapse and a property crash, all
    leading to a recession in European and a depression in the US.

    - The Barclay's economist says that although LEAP's predictions are
    extreme, the social violence is dawning.
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