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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo View Post
    This is brilliant stuff and nobody has refuted it either. I think im going be on the side of the status quo from now on as this scares the life out of me. I wonder though will oil prizes go through the roof again as they did last year considering the yanks will probably invade iran?
    Nobody has refuted the idea that the Knights Templar and the Freemasons are keeping the Loch Ness monster in a private swimming pool in Birmingham, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
    Nobody has refuted the idea that the Knights Templar and the Freemasons are keeping the Loch Ness monster in a private swimming pool in Birmingham, either.
    There is no evidence for that. There is evidence for everything I have posted here. But you didn't read the material or watch the videos because if you did I guarantee you your scepticism would rapidly dissolve.

    I know you have a high regard for the scientific method and for evidence backed research, so please let me know where my evidence-based reasoning has gone awry in the first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    There is no evidence for that. There is evidence for everything I have posted here. But you didn't read the material or watch the videos because if you did I guarantee you your scepticism would rapidly dissolve.
    In a previous posting you said:
    All the organisations here exist and publish literature.
    Both of the above organisations existed and at least one of them publishes literature - I was making the point that the lines I have just quoted are fallacious. Just because someone mentions organisations that exist, it does not follow that everything said about them is true.
    Original posting is here:
    http://www.politics.ie/foreign-affai...ml#post1303293

    I know you have a high regard for the scientific method and for evidence backed research, so please let me know where my evidence-based reasoning has gone awry in the first post.
    First, what makes those sources you cite credible? There are a lot of sites saying a lot of things out there - why do these ones convince you?

    As an interesting aside, why don't you put a date on these events you are predicting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    Very little. They'll discover soon enough either way.
    When is soon enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
    Sounds very likely - a definite event and a very strong source of friction between those powers.

    An elephant on tiptoe on top of the Spire in O'Connell Street is more stable than those countries!


    Funny that Almanac didn't mention that - could it have been because it was a far more plausible interpretation?

    Note how Almanac becomes very certain when he talks with fellow conspiracy theorists, but when asked for a definite date, Almanac backs off a fair distance.


    Almanac should try picking a century where those didn't happen.
    Geekzilla. It's not a conspiracy. The Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission along with the Bildebergers all openly call for world government and an end to national sovereignties.

    You think these enormously powerful people have been meeting for decades and just twiddling their thumbs?

    What difference do you think it makes that approximately 50% of cabinet members in America over the last four of five decades have been members of the Council on Foreign Relations?

    Do you know that the Federal Reserve Bank is and always has been in private hands, with those private hands possessing total control over the American economy, the rate of currency, the availability of credit etc. Do you think this makes any practical difference? Might it shed some light on the current state of the American economy?

    Are you aware that the American income tax has no legal or constitutional basis and that it is in effect an enslavement of the American citizen? Please prove me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
    In a previous posting you said:

    Both of the above organisations existed and at least one of them publishes literature - I was making the point that the lines I have just quoted are fallacious. Just because someone mentions organisations that exist, it does not follow that everything said about them is true.
    Original posting is here:
    http://www.politics.ie/foreign-affai...ml#post1303293



    First, what makes those sources you cite credible? There are a lot of sites saying a lot of things out there - why do these ones convince you?

    As an interesting aside, why don't you put a date on these events you are predicting?
    My point is that we can understand the goals of these internationalists' groups if we read their published literature. Hence it is not necessary to classify the foregoing as a conspiracy.

    I am not a prophet so I do not know when these events will occur, but occur they will. My estimates are based on the highly unusual statements made by three senior leaders, two of whom are former members of the Council on Foreign Relations and the other who happens to be president of it.
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    My internet's been poor so I couldn't watch those video's for a while.

    After looking into the evidence for FEMA, I'm utterly unconvinced. There are lots of people/sites claiming to have seen the camps, or showing videos of supposed camps, but every single one of them has said something that undermines their credibility considerably. Massive jumps of logic, and the whole "out to kill christians" thing, among others. Beyond that, I can't see anything that's both verifiable and potentially convincing. One of your videos even says that the entire CIA knows about the camps and their purpose. That is a prime example of an unwieldy conspiracy theory.

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    I used to be the only freak on this site when I started posting in July 2007.

    David Cochrane warned me once to lay off on posting conspiracies.
    After having spent 20 years following mainstream media like Newsnight on BBC, C4 News, Newsweek and the national papers, the image eventually crystallized that I was being fed a load of sh1t.

    Once I discovered that JFK was not killed by Oswald, everything changed. When I discovered that LBJ orchestrated the assault on the USS Liberty in 1967 killing his own people, it fomented in my mind what a corrupt criminal regime there was seated in the White House.

    I suggested a year ago that there would be a collapse in the Banking system not because I was any genuis, but because I regularly listen to one of the political best brains on the planet Mr. Webster Griffen Tarpley.

    While the majority of the population outside of internetland have to listen to irrelevant nonsense such as Morning Ireland or Carl Thomas with Matt Cooper, Internet land can follow Alex Jones, Max Keiser, Webster Tarpley and others who have the finger on the pulse.

    It seems the coming crisis will be Pakistan and India.

    Webster Tarpley has 2 books on Obama. Obama is exposed as a foundation operative and agent of Wall Street finance capital, controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, and Goldman Sachs. Obama's mother was an official of the Ford Foundation, the World Bank, and US AID. By all indications, Obama was identified for future political use by Brzezinski at Columbia in 1981-1983, during Obama's secret lost years.

    Check out Channel 200 on Sky. It has had Freedom to Fascism, 9/11 Ripple effect, Daniel Obchicke of "The4thbomb" and much more far out stuff. Some too far out for me, but it's better that listening to censored propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny's Soldier View Post
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    It seems the coming crisis will be Pakistan and India.

    Now where did you get that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demotruk View Post
    My internet's been poor so I couldn't watch those video's for a while.

    After looking into the evidence for FEMA, I'm utterly unconvinced. There are lots of people/sites claiming to have seen the camps, or showing videos of supposed camps, but every single one of them has said something that undermines their credibility considerably. Massive jumps of logic, and the whole "out to kill christians" thing, among others. Beyond that, I can't see anything that's both verifiable and potentially convincing. One of your videos even says that the entire CIA knows about the camps and their purpose. That is a prime example of an unwieldy conspiracy theory.
    The video clips are not very impressive but they are really only there for people who won't bother to read the links. The detention camps are real: [COLOR=#0068cf]http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7763[/COLOR]
    One may dispute for what purpose they exist but their existence is not in doubt- and they are empty but manned.

    lIf you watch the below video presentation linked in my signature, however, I think you'll find it interesting to say the least.

    Or also you could read about how the constitution has been effectively dismantled: [COLOR=#0068cf]http://www.constitutionally.blogspot.com/[/COLOR] Why? Why have civil liberties been progressively taken away despite the absence of any terrorist actions?
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