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    Quote Originally Posted by collinsite81 View Post
    WOW !

    Impressive post!

    I totally agree with you and have watched many of the videos you have posted.
    Another video worth watching is The Money Masters which gives an in depth analysis of the rise of the Rothschild Family and the Federal Reserve.

    When you look into this in detail, things like the recent news of making our DNA and fingerprints available to the US government, whether we intend traveling to the States or not, come as no surprise.
    The only question that remains is what can we do when most of the people in the world are oblivious to this and rely on the mainstream media for their "NEWS".
    Very little. They'll discover soon enough either way.

    Looked at the start of that video: appears to be fairly good. I think it covers the same ground as 'From Freedom to Fascism.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoxII View Post
    'The Money Masters' is required viewing to anyone who wants to understand the real root of the ecomonic problems.
    Any of the presentations. It's incredible how many people do not realise that the American federal reserve bank is not federal, that from its inception it has been in private hands. The trillions of dollars they are "owed" means nothing to them. Likewise few realise that the income tax has no legal basis.

    What are the consequences of these two facts?
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    Only a complete idiot would classify the foregoing as a "conspiracy theory". All the organisations here exist and publish literature. This is evidence backed research, in the public sphere and verifiable. Formerly it was more difficult to get information about some of these groups as well as their own literature; now there is not too much difficulty.

    It is more than ten years since the Constitution for the Federation Earth was signed in Austria, with 25 countries participating. Things have advanced since then.

    RE: The Single Global Currency and the 15 November G20 Conference.

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn
    Managing Director
    International Monetary Fund
    700 19th Street N.W.
    Washington, DC 20431


    Dear Mr. Strauss-Kahn:

    The upcoming G20 Conference gives you and the 20 member countries an
    opportunity to begin moving the world to a new international finance
    structure which will achieve the primary goal of the 1944 Bretton Woods
    Conference and the primary goal of the IMF: stable currency around the
    world. That new structure will include a Single Global Currency, managed
    by a Global Central Bank within a Global Monetary Union

    Please ask the 15 November conference to officially begin researching
    and planning for a Single Global Currency. The first element of such
    research would be a comprehensive study of the Benefits and Costs, as
    was done in Europe prior to the commitment to the establishment of the
    euro. Enclosed is a FACT list of the estimated benefits of a Single
    Global Currency.

    Such research would also consider such issues as:

    - how to manage inflation in a world without foreign exchange,
    - the level of reserves required to maintain confidence in a Single
    Global Currency
    - how to cope with regional "shocks" within a Global Monetary Union.


    Economists will be tempted to evaluate whether the world is an Optimum
    Currency Area (OCA), according to the criteria established by Robert
    Mundell and others since the 1960's. However, OCA research has been
    unable consistently to evaluate the utility even of the monetary unions
    of the EMU and the United States.

    Also enclosed is another copy of the 2008 Edition of my book, The Single
    Global Currency - Common Cents for the World. I hope that you or a staff
    member will be able to read it and begin the process of preparing the
    world and the IMF for a Single Global Currency. Also enclosed are copies
    of my letters to you of 19 November 2007 and 28 February 2008.

    The goal of the Single Global Currency Association is a Single Global
    Currency, managed by a Global Central Bank within a Global Monetary
    Union by the year 2024, which is only 16 years away. Seventeen years
    before the 2002 implementation of the euro with the people of Europe,
    there was a Soviet Union and a Berlin Wall. As the original primary goal
    of the IMF was to help the world manage currency fluctuations, it is
    well within that charter for the IMF to lead the world to a Single
    Global Currency. With its original goals achieved, the IMF could
    transform itself into part of the Global Central Bank.

    Sincerely yours,

    Morrison Bonpasse
    President

    # # #

    The Single Global Currency Association is dedicated to the goal of
    implementing a Single Global Currency, within a Global Monetary Union
    and managed by a Global Central Bank by 2024. We shall achieve this goal
    through education and persuasion.


    SOURCE:
    [COLOR=#0068cf]http://www.prlog.org/10141522-single-global-currency-assn-urges-g20-to-initiate-research-and-planning-for-single-global-currency.html[/COLOR]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo View Post
    This is brilliant stuff and nobody has refuted it either. I think im going be on the side of the status quo from now on as this scares the life out of me. I wonder though will oil prizes go through the roof again as they did last year considering the yanks will probably invade iran?
    It scares me too but we need to realise what is taking place right now and the background to it.

    RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS COLLAPSE AND BREAKUP OF USA
    Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET

    A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the
    United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is
    heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

    Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily
    IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything.
    The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in
    the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my
    prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11
    trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."..........

    FULL STORY: [COLOR=#0068cf]http://www.drudgereport.com/flashrur.htm[/COLOR]

    It is intended to collapse. But the supercapitalists such as those who own the federal reserve bank have not been touched by this crisis. Not surprisingly since they orchestrated it. The "solution" to the economic crisis will be the new financial order. In America it will probably "necessitate" the union with Canada and Mexico- the North American Union. This will be a stepping stone to a single unified global economic system in private hands but administered by a puppet one world government. This has long been the stated goal of the financial internationalists. They haven't even hidden it yet some choose not to believe them even as they finally approach their goal.
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    I've decided to entertain the possibility that there may be something to this and I've looked into all the quotes in the first video of your first post. Some are misattributed. Others are less conspiratorial if you read them in context, although they are still about the concentration of power in a few, compromised hands. Others are genuinely what they appear to be.

    It's late, so I'll see about verifying others tomorrow.

    Just one thing about conspiracy theories. It is completely normal to be a conspiracy theorist. It is part of our evolved mentality to see motivation and conspiracy in the secrecy of others, I doubt there is anyone here who does not believe in a "conspiracy theory" of some kind or another. Some are rational, others are not, but we have more power to dig through them nowadays with the invention of the internet, and other media.

    Conspiracies do happen. The larger they get, the more unwieldy and likely to be exposed they become. If you have to assume that a large number of people are "in on it", then there's probably no conspiracy. But at the same time, it's equally bad to assume that it's false just because it's a conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demotruk View Post
    I've decided to entertain the possibility that there may be something to this and I've looked into all the quotes in the first video of your first post. Some are misattributed. Others are less conspiratorial if you read them in context, although they are still about the concentration of power in a few, compromised hands. Others are genuinely what they appear to be.

    It's late, so I'll see about verifying others tomorrow.

    Just one thing about conspiracy theories. It is completely normal to be a conspiracy theorist. It is part of our evolved mentality to see motivation and conspiracy in the secrecy of others, I doubt there is anyone here who does not believe in a "conspiracy theory" of some kind or another. Some are rational, others are not, but we have more power to dig through them nowadays with the invention of the internet, and other media.

    Conspiracies do happen. The larger they get, the more unwieldy and likely to be exposed they become. If you have to assume that a large number of people are "in on it", then there's probably no conspiracy. But at the same time, it's equally bad to assume that it's false just because it's a conspiracy theory.
    That's true but my point is that if there was formerly a conspiracy there no longer exists one since there is little or no element of secrecy left. Also people just like myself tend to have a knee-jerk reaction to the idea of a conspiracy with truly international, indeed global, dimensions, and yet it is not necessary to analyse the material presented in terms of a conspiracy. Much of the background is simply corruption and exploitation on an unimaginably colossal scale. Some argue that there never was a conspiracy, just a shared worldview.

    In any case, I wouldn't waste my precious time posting about this subject here unless I was absolutely convinced that this project is real and is a threat to the world as we know it. Those who continue to laugh and scoff at the idea of a new world order / one world government, which is not only under construction but is in fact well advanced, simply graphically demonstrate their stupidity and gullibility.

    Like some other people who are both smug and gullible, I knew vaguely about the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bildebergers for a number of years but never actually entertained the possibility that those involved might actually have made serious advances towards the fulfillment of their stated goals or that they possessed the power to have done so. Which they have and which they do.

    Read and / or watch all the material in the first post (other 'similar' videos that pop-up in youtube may not be reliable).

    If you want a sober and objective assessment of one aspect of this subject read 'The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline' by James Perloff. Or read Professor Antony Sutton's trilogy on Wall Street in which he acknowledges in his conclusion:

    "Slowly, over decades, book by book, almost line by line, the truth of recent history has emerged as documents are released, probed, analyzed, and set within a more valid historical framework."
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    Pentagon to deploy 20,000 troops for domestic emergencies

    7 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — The US Department of Defense plans to deploy 20,000 troops nationwide by 2011 to help state and local officials respond to terror or nuclear attacks and emergencies, The Washington Post said Monday.

    Citing Pentagon officials, the newspaper said the plan calls for three rapid-reaction forces.

    The first 4,700-strong unit, built around an active-duty combat brigade, is based at Fort Stewart, Georgia, and is already available for deployment, according to General Victor Renuart, commander of the US Northern Command, it said.

    Two additional groups will later join nearly 80 smaller National Guard and reserve units made up of about 6,000 troops to support local and state authorities nationwide, The Post said.

    They will all would be trained to respond to domestic chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive attacks.

    The newpaper said that civil liberties groups and libertarians had expressed concern that the plan could undermine the Posse Comitatus Act, a 130-year-old law restricting the military's role in domestic law enforcement.

    AFP: Pentagon to deploy 20,000 troops for domestic emergencies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asi-Irish View Post
    Pentagon to deploy 20,000 troops for domestic emergencies
    Thanks Asi. We now know that the presidency has been invested with full dictatorial powers, that posse comitatus has been suspended, and that martial law is coming, and that all these future "unpopular" decisions Biden spoke about, decisions in which "It won't be apparent that we're right", will be so radical they would need to be endorsed by community leaders all across America. This is why Biden urged those then present at the fundraiser to go out into their communities and persuade people to support Obama as he turns America into a police state. McCain would have done the same. These puppet presidents only have freedom to innovate within clearly defined parameters which excludes foreign policy and major domestic policies. Republican / Democrat rivalry is a complete sham. Republicans have been implementing far left policies for decades. True Republicans like Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan cannot advance because the elite firehose funds at their candidates of choice.

    Obama appointed the same old people from the Council on Foreign Relations, the Council which openly calls for a one world government and an end to national sovereignties, the Council of which David Rockefeller was president for decades, the Council of which John McCain was a member:

    ""Brilliant," "brainy," "super-smart," and "Wall Street smarts" — these seemed to be some of the recurring words used to describe President-elect Barack Obama's two top economic picks — Timothy Geithner, chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, for sectretary of the Treasury; and former Secretary Treasury Lawrence Summers for National Economic Council director. The praise for Geithner and Summers did not just come from Democrats. According to [COLOR=#0066cc]USA Today[/COLOR], "'Brilliant,' 'outstanding' and 'exceptionally talented' were some of the words used to describe [Obama's] two top choices ... and that came from Republicans."
    Not surprisingly, both Summers and Geithner are veteran members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), as have been most of their predecessors, who have led our nation's economy into the present debacle." Source (Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank which is not federal but is private and which thus possesses total control over the economy and the supposed "fluctuating" highs and lows.)

    Even the clergy have been trained to urge people to obey their government in the coming period of civil unrest, revolution and possibly civil war.

    [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIDNQNsUss"]YouTube - Clergy Response Teams[/ame][/SIZE][/FONT]
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    I just noticed that 3/4's of the posts on this, 5 page, thread are by one poster - is this a record?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seos View Post
    Well why did he say "it will not be 6 months before the world tests Obama like they did John Kennedy"?

    Is he not referring to how both are/where young presidents seen as doves by those who oppose American influence and therefore will be/have been tested?

    Could one of these tests he's referring to not be American-Russian relations considering:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-alliance.html

    This especially would explain the JFK reference would it not??
    Sounds very likely - a definite event and a very strong source of friction between those powers.
    Or do you believe that JFK also faced the same peril (that you think they are going to unleash)?

    Could the predictions of coups not be in the increasingly unstable Afganistan and the uncertain Iraq both of which have elections coming up?
    An elephant on tiptoe on top of the Spire in O'Connell Street is more stable than those countries!

    The 20th of January is the day Obama becomes President so mentioning the 21st or 22nd could be just another way of saying he faces trouble from the second he starts his work as president.
    Funny that Almanac didn't mention that - could it have been because it was a far more plausible interpretation?

    Note how Almanac becomes very certain when he talks with fellow conspiracy theorists, but when asked for a definite date, Almanac backs off a fair distance.

    Another reason they might be able to say with such certainty that: :"There will be coups. ... There will be genocide. ... There will be terrorism."
    could be because there have been coups, genocide and terrorism in the world during almost every presidents term for a long time?
    Almanac should try picking a century where those didn't happen.
    Do you consider my more innocent suggestions of what they could have meant as possible??
    I suspect Almanac doesn't, but that's Almanacs' problem.

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