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    As I said. A waste of time. He doesn't even bother to read replies attentively.
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    Another war orchestrated by Washington: the Arab-Israeli 1973 Yom Kippur war. National Security Advisor to Nixon at the time, Henry Kissinger, was "friendly" with Israeli Washington ambassador Simcha Dinitz. He also deepened his contacts with Syria and Egypt. He misrepresented each side to the other and suppressed intelligence reports which showed that the Arabs were preparing for war. In the few weeks before the war itself he managed to secure the office of secretary of state. He thus had virtual control of the US through the unprecedented holding of two offices of state. The eventual outcome of the war: 400% increase for the oil companies including BP and Shell. The oil shock would have devastating consequences for industrial growth across the world but reaped enormous benefits, as Dr Engdahl points out in 'A Century of War', for the New York and London banks and the seven sisters' oil cartel, interests in which Kissinger's close friend and mentor, David Rockefeller, was heavily represented, along with other establishment figures.
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    Chuck Baldwin - A VERY REAL NEW WORLD ORDER

    A VERY REAL NEW WORLD ORDER

    By Chuck Baldwin
    January 27, 2009
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    It is hard to believe, but a majority of Americans (including Christians and conservatives) seem oblivious to the fact that there is a very real, very legitimate New World Order (NWO) unfolding. In the face of overwhelming evidence, most Americans not only seem totally unaware of this reality, they seem unwilling to even remotely entertain the notion.

    On one hand, it is understandable that so many Americans would be ignorant of the emerging New World Order. After all, the mainstream media refuses to report, or even acknowledge, the NWO. Even "conservative" commentators and talk show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, or Joe Scarborough refuse to discuss it. And when listeners call these respective programs, these "conservative" hosts usually resort to insulting the caller as being some kind of "conspiracy kook." One host even railed that if anyone questions the government line on 9/11, we should "lock them up and throw away the key." So much for freedom of speech!
    Chuck Baldwin -- A Very Real New World Order


    Charles Obadiah "Chuck" Baldwin (born May 3, 1952) was the presidential nominee of the Constitution Party for the 2008 U.S. Presidential election. He was also the Constitution Party nominee for U.S. vice president in 2004. He hosts a daily one-hour radio program, "Chuck Baldwin Live", and writes a daily editorial column carried on its website, on VDare, and in several newspapers.
    Chuck Baldwin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Is financial chaos all a big plot?

    Monday January 26 2009 From th Irish Independent online.

    Riots in Latvia, Greece and Iceland with more civil unrest simmering in global flashpoints, including Ireland. Never has the phrase, "out of chaos will come order" been more apt.

    One wonders if this financial meltdown hasn't been contrived.

    Why hasn't the world's elite of bankers, politicians and industrialists not met to steer a way out of this turmoil?

    There is no reason why the highly influential Bilderberg group could not bring forward its annual conclave from the end of May to the present time.

    Or is it, as one suspects, that it shares the three-legged stool approach, as advocated by its sister policy group, the Trilateral Commission, whereby the economies of America, Asia and Europe are being deliberately nobbled so that we all end up with the same GNP and GDP as the continent of Africa, along with a single monetary unit and low interest rates, all managed by the IMF?

    The net result being that corporations grow wealthier while the rest of us become enslaved. If this is the New World Order I will gladly settle for the old order any day.

    John Finegan Bailieborough, Co Cavan


    Took this from the Irish Indpendent online yesterday. Brave man John Finegan, if you're here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by west'sawake View Post
    Is financial chaos all a big plot?

    Monday January 26 2009 From th Irish Independent online.

    Riots in Latvia, Greece and Iceland with more civil unrest simmering in global flashpoints, including Ireland. Never has the phrase, "out of chaos will come order" been more apt.

    One wonders if this financial meltdown hasn't been contrived.

    Why hasn't the world's elite of bankers, politicians and industrialists not met to steer a way out of this turmoil?

    There is no reason why the highly influential Bilderberg group could not bring forward its annual conclave from the end of May to the present time.

    Or is it, as one suspects, that it shares the three-legged stool approach, as advocated by its sister policy group, the Trilateral Commission, whereby the economies of America, Asia and Europe are being deliberately nobbled so that we all end up with the same GNP and GDP as the continent of Africa, along with a single monetary unit and low interest rates, all managed by the IMF?

    The net result being that corporations grow wealthier while the rest of us become enslaved. If this is the New World Order I will gladly settle for the old order any day.

    John Finegan Bailieborough, Co Cavan


    Took this from the Irish Indpendent online yesterday. Brave man John Finegan, if you're here!
    this is great!

    do have a link for that westsawake?

    found it!
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/le...t-1614438.html
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    Eustace Mullins talks about the New World Order

    Part 6 and 7 are the best

    [ame=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3662355956641585997&hl=en]Part 6 Eustace Mullins talks about the New World Order[/ame]

    [ame=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2771889396325787213&hl=en]Part 7 Eustace Mullins talks about the New World Order[/ame]
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    It's incredible. Senior politicians and public figures of all kinds state openly and clearly what their plans are for the world and the average citizen tunes out before the implications of those plans have a chance to sink in.
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    This article articulates some of my fears surrounding a one world order...

    Immigration - What's The Real Agenda?

    The article describes a war on cultural diversity (here in Ireland the blatant attacks on the existence of our ancient language itself is a case in point) through immigration and enforced multiculturalism - in order to bring about a global monoculture. Such a monoculture is much more easily governed by the emperors of a one world order than a patchwork of different cultures and languages and ethnicities. Therefore spreading multiculturalism is the tool only to bring about the destruction of cultural diversity and uniqueness. In the interests of what they euphemistically call 'tolerance' of other cultures, cultural difference is actually under attack, it's a well concealed paradox.

    Another fear of mine is as follows. Once you scale up government the risks of government tyranny are also scaled upwards, so if say you have an isolated island population 2 million and one town rebels - you send in the troops and crush the town - approximately 20,000 are punished. However if you include that nation in a one world order and suddenly the nation decides it does not want to be there then the nation is crushed to set an example to the others, the nation doesn't matter so much because the one world order's empire is so big. The esteem and respect in which a relatively small territory or nation is held in a one world order is small. Another way of looking at this is to look at many of the worst atrocities in history and you may begin to see a correlation between empire or superstate and atrocities committed by them, Mongol, British, Roman, French, Holy-Roman empire, US, Soviet, China under Mau etc, etc. The superstate is potentially very dangerous for small constituent parts if it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    Therefore spreading multiculturalism is the tool only to bring about the destruction of cultural diversity and uniqueness...
    I've certainly heard that theory and I think there's something in it. But did you ever stop to consider why so many of the world's population need to emigrate in the first place? The globalists are responsible alright, because of their monetary policies:

    The process of globalisation is also engineered by very direct routes:

    The implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement by the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations has led to the elimination of millions of U.S. manufacturing jobs as well as the destruction of U.S. family farming in favor of global agribusiness.
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    The implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement by the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations has led to the elimination of millions of U.S. manufacturing jobs as well as the destruction of U.S. family farming in favor of global agribusiness.
    Yes and they have appointed someone who is believed to be a Monsanto shill as their secretary for agriculture, which is like appointing the fox to take care of the hens. GM food without a choice in the matter from the people who brought you agent orange and then either denied they knew it would cause the horrible damage it did or (what is worse from an overall ethical standpoint if not from a scientific competence perspective) knew it would all along. They did this too in finance, the chairman of the federal reserve and his wall street buddies created the toxic derivatives market, Clinton created a blurring of the distinction between a merchant bank (the casino banks) and a commercial bank (one which loans only) so that when Greenspan's timebomb exploded there was no way to distinguish between the two and the casino guys got hundreds of billions in bail outs rewarding them for their practices. Rotten to the core and no honest escape from this parasitic oligarchy, the bigger entities or superstates will screw over their own people more frequently and more blatantly than happens elsewhere.

    The process of globalisation is also engineered by very direct routes:
    Speaking of 'direct routes'.... why are there so many people say from.... Nigeria, in Ireland specifically? The UK gets Pakistanis and Somalis, France gets North Africans, Germany Turks etc. What links are there between Ireland and Nigeria that could explain this as a background phenomenon as opposed to a deliberate, planned occurrence? We share a patron saint and are 3000 miles apart, they are Protestant/Islamic black and we are Catholic white... If anyone knows the answer could they tell me?
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