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    Hope of the Wicked

    Ted Flynn's Hope of the Wicked


    Many well-intentioned people these days look to the realm of politics for the solutions to the many and diverse societal problems facing the world. They believe that if only they could get good people into seats of power, then all would begin to correct itself and heal. These are noble and sane beliefs; indeed, one would expect the political route to bring this hoped-for outcome. Thats what politics are for, after all, right? We have come to believe that government does the will of the people, that the vote of the individual is the ultimate shaper of policy. The reality, however, is quite different, and this is borne out factually and undeniably in Ted Flynn's new book, Hope of the Wicked.

    Politics has become but a tool for chaos; the solution for the ills confronting us exists far beyond. How have we arrived at the point we find ourselves, a point defined by the lack of ability to even govern our own future? If we can no longer determine our temporal destiny, then what does? The answers lie in a vast tangle of forces, organizations, individuals and philosophies, a tangle purposely confusing so as to avoid detection, a mass bound together tangibly by the desire of money and power, intangibly by the very essence of deceit.

    What are these forces? How do they function? How have they come to the height of power? The truth is not easy to explain, nor is it easy to accept. The deception underlying the plans and processes is extremely subtle and pervasive. To understand all that is afoot requires delving into a large number of areas. Hope of the Wicked does just this.
    Amazon.com: Hope of the Wicked (9780966805635): Ted Flynn: Books
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    "Unputdownable", according to Catholicity Blog:

    We just heard from Ted Flynn. His comprehensive new book on the New World Order called Hope of the Wicked is making waves in Protestant and conservative circles. Mr. Flynn's been on over 60 radio shows since HOTW came out earlier this year, and he is quick to point out that there isn't a hidden "conspiracy" to control the world so much as global movement of people and organizations who share a system of (ultimately diabolical) beliefs that allow them to work toward a common goal.

    These elites do not consider Christians or the Catholic Church as friends. We know many of you have no idea what we're talking about. You have a vague notion that Freemasonry, the New Age Movement, the United Nations, Planned Parenthood, the Trilateralists, and elite media and universities, along with organizations with names like the Council on Foreign Relations, wield tremendous power in our society and around the world.

    It's a confusing subject, for sure, as is anything that emanates from the evil one. For the first time in one complete presentation, HOTW (which is meticulously footnoted and researched) traces the history, the connections, and the current matrix of these elites, and features scores of incredibly damning and lucid quotes from some of the most well-known public figures of our times. The quotes alone will stun you. Mr. Flynn could have called it "The New World Order in Their Own Words."

    Catholics need to know the truth, but we'll warn you that Hope of the Wicked is not easy reading. Our Lady has her peace plan, and the bad guys–including the bad guy–have a plan, too, and much of it is already in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    "Unputdownable", according to Catholicity Blog:
    I think the author is a Protestant though I would say that it's a cross-denominational issue, isn't it? In fact many atheistic opponents of globalism are specifically opposed to its religious aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    I think the author is a Protestant though I would say that it's a cross-denominational issue, isn't it? In fact many atheistic opponents of globalism are specifically opposed to its religious aspects.
    I'd agree with you on that, the proponents of the NWO have indeed a somewhat religious zeal to their political philosophy and the implementation of the ideas within
    Weever's ideas have consequences deal with this very well, and if memory serves me right that was written over 60 decades ago.

    In effect it means the dismantling of what the new zealots perceive as barriers to State or suprastate power, i.e. inter quangoised globalism; the patriarchical family structure, traditional morality, the nation state, religious tradition, national and regional security in food, money, and energy, all replaced by an ominous global interdepencence through huge congolmerates and quangos, who control the supply, access to and distribution of all three. How far off are we from that remains to be seen, but certainly huge populations, regions and countries are to a certain extent more captive than any time in history.

    This new religion also has has also its own kind of religous buzz words, sustainable development, (cut the population), Reproductive rights, (a euphemism for abortion), inclusiveness and equality, (make a critical mass of groups feel alienated and a minority, create then an altered consciousness to effect the deconstruction of those natural bulwarks against the power of State agencies; global ethic, (Hans Kung is their favourite theologian),spiritual as opposed to religious, making their own 'Gospel values' as opposed to Christ being the answer.

    Some Russian Philosopher did a very good Scripture exegesis once on the over the top apocalyptic spirituality, whereby seven day adventists, many Catholics, and Fundamentalist protestants, keep looking for signs that the Anti Christ is here, that there are conspirators facilitating the reign of the Anti Christ, where in actual fact this Orthodox Russian, admired by Benedict XVI and Cardinal Biffi, spoke about the Spirit of Anti Christ now dominating Western Culture, a culture founded on the Spirit of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem, in it he referred to the spirit of the age being Anti Christian, it manifests itself as distorted pacifism, an excessive ecumenism, and an enviro-pantheism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    I think the author is a Protestant though I would say that it's a cross-denominational issue, isn't it? In fact many atheistic opponents of globalism are specifically opposed to its religious aspects.
    But it is worth pointing to that secular humanism (promoted often unwittingly by mainstream or 'Blue Lodge' Freemasonry) is the front used to forward it as a means to undermine traditonal religious beliefs.
    The intention some believe is to clear to field eventually for their planned One World Religion and their oppointed leader -that many believe to be the Antichrist identified in the Book of Revelations. It sounds insane it most likely as they are insane but very much for real.
    Insightful response to the New World Order from Argentina – those too rubbish to recognise a controlled demolition need not trouble themselves - you're already theirs more than likely.


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    West'sawake, I'm guessing you're serious and sincere here, but you're spreading a lot of confusion. I'm trying to decipher what you've written.

    Quote Originally Posted by west'sawake View Post
    I'd agree with you on that, the proponents of the NWO have indeed a somewhat religious zeal to their political philosophy and the implementation of the ideas within
    Weever's ideas have consequences deal with this very well, and if memory serves me right that was written over 60 decades ago.
    Huh? I wouldn't even be bothered trying to find out who Weever was.

    In effect it means the dismantling of what the new zealots perceive as barriers to State or suprastate power, i.e. inter quangoised globalism;
    What? OK, I guess by "the new zealots" you mean the leaders of the "new world order" (NWO) movement/conspiracy. Do you mean globalization through manipulation of quangos at various levels?

    the patriarchical family structure,
    What about the matriarchal family structure? Do you also see that as being dismantled?

    traditional morality,
    Which tradition? The Victorian one? Some Irish one going back to the Brehon Laws? Aristotelian ethics?

    the nation state,
    Yes, there's certainly some dismantling of the nation state going on. A good thing or a bad thing? And how old is the tradition of the nation state?

    religious tradition,
    We're still pretty careful about freedom of religion, aren't we? How careful should we be about fascism dressed up as religion -- Islamofascism, for example?

    national and regional security in food, money, and energy, all replaced by an ominous global interdepencence through huge congolmerates and quangos, who control the supply, access to and distribution of all three.
    Maybe.

    How far off are we from that remains to be seen, but certainly huge populations, regions and countries are to a certain extent more captive than any time in history.
    I guess so.

    This new religion also has has also its own kind of religous buzz words, sustainable development, (cut the population),
    You need to explain (to me anyway) what is wrong with sustainable development. I suspect that any examples you might give would be entirely different from examples I might give.

    Reproductive rights, (a euphemism for abortion),
    Isn't it possible that other people see a very different meaning? Like a woman's right to:
    give birth at home
    control the placenta, or a stillbirth
    reject vaccination, bloodtests, and so on

    inclusiveness and equality, (make a critical mass of groups feel alienated and a minority, create then an altered consciousness to effect the deconstruction of those natural bulwarks against the power of State agencies;
    Confusing, to say the least. I think I'm instinctively in favour of "natural bulwarks against the power of State agencies". I'm also in favour of the citizens having the right to vote into power a government that exercises control over the State agencies.

    global ethic, (Hans Kung is their favourite theologian),
    Whatever.

    spiritual as opposed to religious,
    Do you like all religions?

    making their own 'Gospel values' as opposed to Christ being the answer.
    So, tell us where we find the "correct" Gospel values. And are those the be all and end all of values, or would you point to various other values that we should attend to?

    Some Russian Philosopher, did a very good Scripture exegesis once on the over the top apocalyptic spirituality, whereby seven day adventists, many Catholics, and Fundamentalist protestants, keep looking for signs that the Anti Christ is here, that there are conspirators facilitating the reign of the Anti Christ, where in actual fact this Orthodox Russian, admired by Benedict XVI and Cardinal Biffi, spoke about the Spirit of Anti Christ now dominating Western Culture, a culture founded on the Spirit of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem, in it he referred to the spirit of the age being Anti Christian, it manifests itself as distorted pacifism, an excessive ecumenism, and an enviro-pantheism.
    Distorted pacifism? Examples?

    What do you think of Tony Blair?

    Give me enviro-pantheists any day. (Well, I think I would prefer...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by west'sawake View Post
    I'd agree with you on that, the proponents of the NWO have indeed a somewhat religious zeal to their political philosophy and the implementation of the ideas within
    Weever's ideas have consequences deal with this very well, and if memory serves me right that was written over 60 decades ago.

    In effect it means the dismantling of what the new zealots perceive as barriers to State or suprastate power, i.e. inter quangoised globalism; the patriarchical family structure, traditional morality, the nation state, religious tradition, national and regional security in food, money, and energy, all replaced by an ominous global interdepencence through huge congolmerates and quangos, who control the supply, access to and distribution of all three. How far off are we from that remains to be seen, but certainly huge populations, regions and countries are to a certain extent more captive than any time in history.

    This new religion also has has also its own kind of religous buzz words, sustainable development, (cut the population), Reproductive rights, (a euphemism for abortion), inclusiveness and equality, (make a critical mass of groups feel alienated and a minority, create then an altered consciousness to effect the deconstruction of those natural bulwarks against the power of State agencies; global ethic, (Hans Kung is their favourite theologian),spiritual as opposed to religious, making their own 'Gospel values' as opposed to Christ being the answer.

    Some Russian Philosopher did a very good Scripture exegesis once on the over the top apocalyptic spirituality, whereby seven day adventists, many Catholics, and Fundamentalist protestants, keep looking for signs that the Anti Christ is here, that there are conspirators facilitating the reign of the Anti Christ, where in actual fact this Orthodox Russian, admired by Benedict XVI and Cardinal Biffi, spoke about the Spirit of Anti Christ now dominating Western Culture, a culture founded on the Spirit of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem, in it he referred to the spirit of the age being Anti Christian, it manifests itself as distorted pacifism, an excessive ecumenism, and an enviro-pantheism.
    great post westsawake

    totally get what you're saying - the spirit of this age is very anti-christian in many respects
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    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts View Post
    West'sawake, I'm guessing you're serious and sincere here, but you're spreading a lot of confusion. I'm trying to decipher what you've written.

    Huh? I wouldn't even be bothered trying to find out who Weever was.
    Weaver? Well worth a glance.

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    Oiver Stone tells the truth

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    states the bleedin obvious

    and yet apparently he's getting attacked for his comments

    what was it someone said? "The people who everyone is terrified of speaking out against are the ones who truly hold the power."
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