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Thread: The coming "crisis" and American totalitarianism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor the Bold View Post
    Enjoy our slavery? What exactly do you think makes you immune from the coming apocalyse? Because you have food? Tell me... do you have a can opener? Fuel? Or a means to protect your food? Do you have a bunker?
    If there is a crisis food and the other necessities I pointed out earlier will be the biggest issue. I have the means to protect it.

    I also have gas and a burner if it's required and an open fire where I can burn wood or whatever. I don't see the price of oil going back up in the forseeable future, at least not until 2010 when the oil producing countries will be on their knees and the bankers go in to take over their assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    If there is a crisis food and the other necessities I pointed out earlier will be the biggest issue. I have the means to protect it.

    I also have gas and a burner if it's required and an open fire where I can burn wood or whatever. I don't see the price of oil going back up in the forseeable future, at least not until 2010 when the oil producing countries will be on their knees and the bankers go in to take over their assets.

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    That about sums it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by garlandgreen View Post
    That about sums it up
    Indeed it does in your mind, but if you look at what has been happening over the past few months nothing can be taken for granted any more. Look at Iceland, riots on the streets, the collapse of their currency and now the IMF may be going in.

    If you look at the video I posted with Barroso in it he smugly talks about the crisis being an opportunity, there's no sense of crisis for him and he is actually enjoying it. He also uses the word 'plasicity' what do you think he means by that, I take it that crisis events can be used to mold people's thinking and bring in changes that otherwise would not be tolerated. If you have another interpretation then say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garlandgreen View Post
    And where are these esteemed posters that support your position here? If these "deep throats" in the videos are so convincing and have so much evidence to support their case why is not every reputable journalist from Seymour Hersh to Bob Woodward gathering evidence on them. Hell even Robert Fisk. Would any of these people miss an opportunity to get the scoop of the century just to protect the American establishment. Perhaps their refusals to return the phonecalls of Jim Corr is where they've missed their opportunitiy

    Oh and by the way if you're right about any of this what exactly do you think you and the other one would accomplish by going on a raid in Tesco, Lidle or Aldi. You'll have to flesh out that ingenious scheme a bit more for me
    If you look at the video I posted earlier you see a speech from Walter Cronkite one of the biggest icons in America talking about world government. He has been feeding his audience lies for decades now, telling them what the 'news' is, I wonder do his audience know that he is a member of an influential organization promoting world government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    I would suggest people invest in tangible commodities rather than Gold and precious metals. Food, alcohol, cigarettes, bathroom products, toilet paper, washing powder etc are much more valuable if there is a crisis. The Gold market just like the oil market is being manipulate.
    Lthse.
    Of course you are right, It is foolish to seek refuge in the wrong things, I was inferring implicity as you do now more explicitly that they also manipuate commodity prices too, adding to their own store of whatthey consider to be wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    Indeed it does in your mind, but if you look at what has been happening over the past few months nothing can be taken for granted any more. Look at Iceland, riots on the streets, the collapse of their currency and now the IMF may be going in.

    If you look at the video I posted with Barroso in it he smugly talks about the crisis being an opportunity, there's no sense of crisis for him and he is actually enjoying it. He also uses the word 'plasicity' what do you think he means by that, I take it that crisis events can be used to mold people's thinking and bring in changes that otherwise would not be tolerated. If you have another interpretation then say it.
    It is no more than the statement of the obvious. People will have to change their ways. That's not denied by anybody. The way things were was not sustainable. Facing up to stark realities might force people to accept ways of going forward that are not especially palatable but neccessary. But that does nothing to vindicate your conspiracy theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by west'sawake View Post
    Lthse.
    Of course you are right, It is foolish to seek refuge in the wrong things, I was inferring implicity as you do now more explicitly that they also manipuate commodity prices too, adding to their own store of whatthey consider to be wealth.
    Indeed, excellent analysis of the economic situation btw

    Just wondering, do you think that we will have hyperinflation at the same time as the depression because of excessive money supply from the bailouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    If there is a crisis food and the other necessities I pointed out earlier will be the biggest issue. I have the means to protect it.
    Ha! Do you? With what exactly? You're a right Mountain man aren't you?

    I also have gas and a burner if it's required and an open fire where I can burn wood or whatever.
    Really. You have just gas and a burner. Question. How's your freezer going to work? .

    I don't see the price of oil going back up in the forseeable future, at least not until 2010 when the oil producing countries will be on their knees and the bankers go in to take over their assets.
    You heard it here first. In less than a year OPEC countries will be on their knees. One wonders were they on their knees in the 1990's and earlier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    If you look at the video I posted earlier you see a speech from Walter Cronkite one of the biggest icons in America talking about world government. He has been feeding his audience lies for decades now, telling them what the 'news' is, I wonder do his audience know that he is a member of an influential organization promoting world government.
    No it was looking for a stronger UN which could impose the will of the international community on rogue states and matters of global concern. That has hardly been American policy over the last couple of decades

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    Quote Originally Posted by garlandgreen View Post
    ...every reputable journalist from Seymour Hersh to Bob Woodward gathering evidence on them. Hell even Robert Fisk. Would any of these people miss an opportunity to get the scoop of the century just to protect the American establishment.

    You assume they are entirely free to report on these things. They are not. As I mentioned in previous posts, all the mainstream media outlets are owned or controlled by either CFR or Bilderberger members. It sounds crazy but it's true. There really is only a limited free press in America in the mainstream channels. Former New York Times editor, John Swinton, said in his retirement speech, "There is no such thing as an independent press in America, if we except that of little towns."

    Your question was put to a group of journalists by Christopher Bollen, of the American Free Press, while they were all waiting for a UN conference to begin. Anthony Holden, former UN correspondent for the Economist stated, "The Bilderbergers have been removed from our assignment list years ago by executive order." William Glasgow, writer for Business Week, stated, "we don't report on their activities."

    C Gordon Tether did. He wrote in his famous Lombard column in the Financial Times that many hold "the idea that Bilderbergism is the arm of a movement whose aim is to create- 'a world fit for multinationals to live in'- which may indeed even see itself as spearheading the establishment of world government by such interests" and added, "Bilderbergism is an unseen force of great significance in world affairs that we ought to know a lot more about." This cost him his job. In the lead-up to the action 50 columns of his were also suppressed, which were later published elsewhere.
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