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They will attack Iran but it won't be like the Iraqi invasion. It will ignite a world war which will end the American empire forever.
Softening-up process.
They will attack Iran but it won't be like the Iraqi invasion. It will ignite a world war which will end the American empire forever.
"The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln
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And how do you feel about that? (The ending of the American empire)
I don't think Putin will allow it and I believe he has already warned the Americans and Israelis of the consequences if they do.
And China too, surely? Wouldn't they react very strongly to an attack on Iran?
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Yes, China too, of course.
If the United States government collapses, Michael Craft and his Unorganized Militia of Champaign County are ready.
ST. PARIS — If the United States government collapses, Michael Craft and his Unorganized Militia of Champaign County are ready.
“One day, if we have a complete collapse … if one day we are no longer a constitutional form of government, we’re going to need people who are willing to defend the neighbors in the community and your family,” Craft said.
The Southern Poverty Law Center last month placed Craft’s militia and 12 other Ohio groups on the same list of militias as the Michigan-based Hutaree, nine members of which were arrested last weekend on charges they plotted to kill police, then set off bombs at the funeral, as part of an uprising against the government.
Craft said his militia, founded in 2000, is “defensive, not offensive,” and doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with the Hutaree, an apocalyptic Christian group with Ohio members whose Web site includes the slogan, “Preparing for the end time battles to keep the testimony of Jesus Christ alive.”
“Now it’s going to be an upward battle to convince people that we’re not that way,” he said. “We support law enforcement, we’re not out to overthrow anybody.”
13 Ohio groups on the same list of militias as the Michigan-based Hutaree
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. ~ Thomas Jefferson
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[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XJEX2rAAIE&feature="]YouTube- NEDA'S DEATH - NOT REAL!!- (Iran Protest)[/nomedia]
An investigative television producer in Iran has made a documentary which shows another side of Neda's death. His work challenges the Western media account of the incident. What you're about to see contains graphic pictures.
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"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.'' ~ J. Edgar Hoover
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I count the days.
They (Putin and Medvedev) warned that the consequences would be catastrophic but they didn't make any direct threats. In any case, America will not be deterred. The CFR heads who determine policy are irresponsible to the point of craziness. They really think they are invicible. Under Bush, they came in with the nickname "the crazies." Same people with a new marketing name- neocons. Some were genuine useful idiots (like Weigel)... Right now Russia is strengthening its strategic relations with Venezuela and Bolivia. There is also conflict between the US and Russia over the the Arctic region. Geopolitical conflict between these two powers will inevitably boil over into out and out war. I believe Iran will be the catalyst. The coming war will definitely start in the middle east, one way or another. It's the same choreography- an invented dangerous enemy, first subjected to sanctions, threats, disingenuous diplomacy (that will end only one way), while the process of neocon softening-up and media landscape painting sleepwalks the public into assent.I don't think Putin will allow it and I believe he has already warned the Americans and Israelis of the consequences if they do.
Just a few days back Israel was carrying out simulated strikes against Iran's nuclear sites. So Kristol is right that there will be war. But wrong about who will emerge victorious.
"The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln
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I don't think, post Iraq, with the lie of WMD exposed, and body bags from Afghanistan too, especially back to the UK, that it's gonna happen. The CFR may be malevolent
puppeteers but somethings they just can't control and they are not that stupid, despite their earlier successes. Non, indeed they may well play their hand too far, besides, the last thing the dollar can afford right now is another war and the last thing the U.S wants is to piss off China even more, China who won't back an Iran invasion and China who holds trillions of dollar denominated assets and knows the US just cannot afford another war without the dollar going even further south will use US economic dependance on that reality to good effect to say back off.
Basically the CFR knows now is not the time to declare war on Iran, not for another five years at least, by which time, just like the World got used to Pakistan having the bomb,. we'll get used to the Iranians having it too.
The lie of Pearl Harbour was exposed. Japan provoked, multitudinous warnings all ignored. Court martial trial finds against Washington.
The lie of the Gulf of Tonkin attacks were exposed. First attack provoked. Second attack didn't take place. Body bags shipped back by the thousands.
The lie of Iraq 1 was exposed- Saddam was deceived into thinking the US would not interfere. American ambassador finally confesses in 2008. Iraqi refugee spinning lies about Iraqi atrocities turns out to be member of the Kuwait royal family.
The lies about the other smaller conflicts were all exposed- the overthrow of 50 governments, many democratically elected, the installation of US-friendly dictatorships, the CIA training insurgents in torture techniques. Sr Dianna Ortiz has testified. John Stockwell has testified.
The US acts now without even nominal support from public opinion, as seen in the case of Obama.
Iran has the largest gas reserves in the world and 137.6 billion barrels of proven oil reserves (or 10% of the world's total reserves).
Nothing is going to stop the US going after these resources and effecting an economic takeover of Iran (just as they did Iraq). That's the master plan- full spectrum dominance of the middle east.
And the US is not afraid of either Russia or China- in fact it has threatened China very recently and is in the process of encircling Russia. It is still the most powerful military force on earth by a considerable margin.
"The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln
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But, if Oil was no longer priced in dollars, then that power is gone, and/or if China dumps her dollars or sells all her dollar assets, the dollar nose dives further, then Uncle Sam's military power, without purchasing power, is as effective as a pea shooter at the Alamo. Fact is war costs a lot of money to wage, consider the purchasing power of the dollar pre kuwait, pre Iraq, and you might get the point it was a lot stronger then. The economy just cannot take it nor can it simply print money, that has already been done to bail out the banks and there is now going to be fiscal and monetary retrenchment. No the rhetoric is just that, trying to slow down what will eventually happen in Iran just as it did Pakistan.
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