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Thread: The coming "crisis" and American totalitarianism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sucker Punch View Post
    With the passing of legislation opening up the American political system to increased corporate lobbyind, the Republican ideals and constitutional rights afforded to people are being curtailed.

    ...free speech for a person not made of flesh and blood???????


    The first port of call to set right a natural order is to abolish corporate personhood:


    David Cobb & Riki Ott - Organizing Community to Abolish Corporate Personhood
    Thats a bit one sided Sucker Punch.You are suggesting that charities, political activists, unions,churches or community groups for example shouldn't be allowed to have freedom of speech?. Citizens United, (the party that won that case against the Federal Election Commision) was a not for profit organisation that made a movie telling people not to vote for Hillary Clinton.Would have thought that the Clintons being Bilderburgers ect. you would support such a venture and uphold Citizen United's right to free speech??..no?
    If a corporation was not a "legal person" would you be able to sue it?.would it be able to contract or own property?

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    The NWO to be ruled by Mega Corporations not governments

    The following article explains how the New World Order is designed to work. Instead of corporations acting under the government and therefore the will of the people, the Mega-Corporations will rule supreme with the governments acting as facilitators to the financial elite.

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    The struggle over [new markets] is leading to a New World War – the Fourth. Like all major conflicts, this war is forcing national states to redefine their identity.

    In this new war, politics, as the organizer of the nation state, no longer exists. Now politics serves solely in order to manage the economy, and politicians are now merely company managers.

    The world’s new masters have no need to govern directly. National governments take on the role of running things on their behalf. This is what the new order means - unification of the world into one single market. States are simply enterprises with managers in the guise of governments, and the new regional alliances bear more of a resemblance to shopping malls than political federations.

    The Startling Link Between Globalisation and Bank Fraud | zero hedge

    most of us familiar with the NWO were already aware of this - but this article does a good job explaining

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    On that note...

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    Use Cash And Enjoy Privacy? You’re A Terrorist

    Government ad running on British radio station tells public to report people who close their curtains as potential suicide bombers.

    A new government commercial currently running on one of Britain’s most popular radio stations is selling one thing – fear – by encouraging Londoners to report their neighbors as terrorists if they use cash, enjoy their privacy, or even close their curtains.

    The advertisement, produced in conjunction with national radio outlet TallkSport, promotes the “anti-terrorist hotline” and encourages people to report individuals who don’t talk to their neighbors much, people who like to keep themselves to themselves, people who close their curtains, and people who don’t use credit cards.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIAFHjL3ZMg&feature="]YouTube- Your Neighbour Is a Terrorist According to talkSport UK[/ame]

    this is insane

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    Jesse Ventura on The View 03 10 2010 – Gulf of Tonkin, Pat Tillman , JFK, WTC-7 and 9

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    Ron Paul's speech here sums up all the concerns expressed in this thread:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_IUwwGq-A&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Ron Paul: What If? (speech on House floor 2/12/09)[/ame]
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    Democracy is a useful fiction

    Democracy in America is a useful fiction:

    Corporate forces, long before the Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, carried out a coup d'état in slow motion. The coup is over. We lost. The ruling is one more judicial effort to streamline mechanisms for corporate control. It exposes the myth of a functioning democracy and the triumph of corporate power. But it does not significantly alter the political landscape. The corporate state is firmly cemented in place.

    The fiction of democracy remains useful, not only for corporations, but for our bankrupt liberal class. If the fiction is seriously challenged, liberals will be forced to consider actual resistance, which will be neither pleasant nor easy. As long as a democratic facade exists, liberals can engage in an empty moral posturing that requires little sacrifice or commitment. They can be the self-appointed scolds of the Democratic Party, acting as if they are part of the debate and feel vindicated by their cries of protest.

    Much of the outrage expressed about the court's ruling is the outrage of those who prefer this choreographed charade. As long as the charade is played, they do not have to consider how to combat what the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin calls our system of "inverted totalitarianism."

    Inverted totalitarianism represents "the political coming of age of corporate power and the political demobilization of the citizenry," Wolin writes in "Democracy Incorporated." Inverted totalitarianism differs from classical forms of totalitarianism, which revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader, and finds its expression in the anonymity of the corporate state.
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    Time Magazine leads this week with a feature on the next ten big ideas assembled by the folk at the New America Foundation, which they say will set the trends for the next ten years. The first trend they isolate is the continuation of American global hegemony. The piece is worth reading as a whole, as is the article itself (available online below):

    With only 5% of the world's population, the U.S. produces a quarter of the world's economic output. Even as the global economic crisis led to the expansion of the G-7 (or G-8, depending on who's counting) into the G-20, none of the newcomers offer a compelling challenge to the American way. If anything, they want to make sure the U.S. abides by its own rules. The dollar's status as the world's reserve currency has only been bolstered as the Greek debt crisis unveils the perils of a monetary union that lacks political and fiscal coherence.
    Time Magazine: 10 Ideas for the Next Ten Years: Idea 1- The Next American Century

    No one doubts America's greatness but the portrayal of the US in this piece is simply propagandist.

    For all its egregious missteps around the world, the U.S. remains an inclusive superpower. Other nations are thriving under the Pax Americana, and the rise of second-tier powers makes the continued projection of U.S. might more welcome in certain neighborhoods. South Korea, Japan and even Vietnam appreciate having the U.S. serve as a counterweight to China; Pakistan and India want to engage Washington to counterbalance each other. According to last year's Pew Global Attitudes Survey, half the 24 nations questioned held a more favorable view of the U.S. than they did of China or Russia. (The most glaring exceptions, where Brand America has obvious problems for obvious reasons, were in the Middle East.)
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    "The perfect liberty they seek is the liberty of making slaves of other people." -- Abraham Lincoln


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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    That really hits home. faceless mega corporations, the end of nation states, not the G8 or G9 summit, but the oligarchic carve up for human self indulgence to the point of cannibalisation. Humanity is entering the twilight zone of becoming mere merchandise , billions of consumption units for the mega global advertisers, selling us what we don't really need, but want. Truly humanity is beginning to be collectively captured, yet hope lies in the truth that satiation in the end brings despair and not joy, and we will waken up out of the spiritual sloth that brought us to where we are.

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