The coming "crisis" and American totalitarianism

[west'sawake]

Here's what Barroso said about the crisis:

"We need a coordinated global response to reform the global financial system. We are living in unprecedented times and we need unprecedented levels of global coordination," The Associated Press reported Barroso as saying. "It's very simple. We swim together or we sink together."

Barross is mad, the very reason we are in this mess is because of globalisation.

The fundamental cause of the present economic contagion infecting the 'global economy' and detrimentally affecting every nation, has its roots in the almost perfect mobility of international capital which is waht hte Borroso's and Bilderbergers of this World wanted.

The toxic debt in the States, the sub prime lending, dressed up in sophisticated financial instruments, inc derivatives, the reinsurance industry and so on, were all made possible because of the mobility of excess savings in the East to the West, the deregulation of capital markets, the global inter bank markets etc. A gigantic con then was made on the thrifty savers of the East by a contrived bull market, contrived in the senes that interest rates were deliberately kept low by the fed and other Centralbanks, and also by an excess money supply, both in the printing of money and the global credit supply.

Every Economics student knows that there is an inverse relationship beteween interest rates and equity performance, only disrupted when there is a complete lack of confidence because something else is seriously wrong. And in this case it is the reality that the U.S.A. is facing bankruptcy and too many other economies have collapsing asset bubbles wth the toxic debt infecting even stronger economies banking systems.
The markets will not and cannot recover, the long term prognosis is too serious.

The Rockerfellers of this world are not dumb they know you cannot buck fundamental economic laws for that long, in this case 15 years, (yes we can trace the roots of it all to Greenspan) and that the whole system would collapse, and the only real hedge or protection is Gold and precious metals. You can be sure the club then are O.K.

So the globalisation that brought us to this crisis, the currecny blocks that have tried to deny the basic laws of Economics that you cannot impose a currency on widely divergent economies, with different rates of productivity, of wealth, of purchasing power, etc. Borrosso wants to give us an even stronger version of that? That is exactly what will make us all sink together, control the money and you control the nation, control the food and you control the people.

The only bulwark against it is the Nation State.

[rhonda15]

A scare before bedtime!

This vid scared the bejesus outa me!

[ame=http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=5ckvg6PYLUQ&feature=related]YouTube - WORLD FINANCIAL MARKETS WILL CRASH IN 2009[/ame]

Apparently this is a 1981 movie called "Rollover"
Rollover (1981)

[Lthse]

It's difficult not to get annoyed alright but really these people are more worthy of pity. The shock they get will be directly proportionate to their degree of scepticism. I was in shock myself for days when these unpleasant truths started dawning on me. Now I look back at my scornful attitude with embarassment.

I understand what you're saying and to be honest I don't really care about him and his kind, I am more concerned about how they influence others and pacify them into thinking everything is ok when it blatantly is not. Instead of getting a real debate about the very real threats to our whole civilization we get these 'educated' morons on every thread about the nwo talking sh1te about 'conspiracy theories', 'ten foot lizards' and 'tin foil hats'. This thread was supposed to be about the threat of martial law in America and you presented the evidence to back up your case but once again they resorted to same drivel. There are very real threats in the near future and people NEED to know about them.

I have advised a lot of people to stock up on food, those that know me take the information seriously, others look at me like I am insane. It's no fun trying to spread this information, most people find it depressing. I hope to God that I am wrong and there won't be a food crisis and I will gladly admit to being wrong, however I'm not taking the chance and that's what I advise others.

[Lthse]

The Rockerfellers of this world are not dumb they know you cannot buck fundamental economic laws for that long, in this case 15 years, (yes we can trace the roots of it all to Greenspan) and that the whole system would collapse, and the only real hedge or protection is Gold and precious metals. You can be sure the club then are O.K.

I would suggest people invest in tangible commodities rather than Gold and precious metals. Food, alcohol, cigarettes, bathroom products, toilet paper, washing powder etc are much more valuable if there is a crisis. The Gold market just like the oil market is being manipulate.

[Almanac]

I understand what you're saying and to be honest I don't really care about him and his kind, I am more concerned about how they influence others and pacify them into thinking everything is ok when it blatantly is not. Instead of getting a real debate about the very real threats to our whole civilization we get these 'educated' morons on every thread about the nwo talking sh1te about 'conspiracy theories', 'ten foot lizards' and 'tin foil hats'.

I don't know how educated some of them are judging by the quality of their responses. Or intelligent since they can't distinguish real evidence from wild speculation. Others though having read the material carefully and followed the links have accepted that this is no joke.

This thread was supposed to be about the threat of martial law in America and you presented the evidence to back up your case but once again they resorted to same drivel. There are very real threats in the near future and people NEED to know about them.

Given that the threat of a police state appeared on the cover of Newsweek and that one of my last post's linked to an article from the Times on the threat of, and dubious justification for, martial law, anyone still in denial must be getting chewed by a crocodile.

I have advised a lot of people to stock up on food, those that know me take the information seriously, others look at me like I am insane. It's no fun trying to spread this information, most people find it depressing. I hope to God that I am wrong and there won't be a food crisis and I will gladly admit to being wrong, however I'm not taking the chance and that's what I advise others.

I'm in the same boat. And the time is very short. That's why I started this thread in fact.

I know a consultant scientist who has been stocking food and medications for a while now- and not just for himself. What kinds of food are you buying and where are you sourcing them?

[Almanac]

A scare before bedtime!

Apparently this is a 1981 movie called "Rollover"
Rollover (1981)

Wow. That is amazing. And even a black president.

[Lthse]

I know a consultant scientist who has been stocking food and medications for a while now- and not just for himself. What kinds of food are you buying and where are you sourcing them?

I am buying food in Tesco's for the simple reason that it is close by. There are a lot of bargains if you look closely, for example I bought tins of beans, peas, lentils, large packets of porridge, Tesco cereals, razors (49c for 10), canned fruit (30c), creamed rice (25c) soup, pasta, Tesco salmon, Tesco sardines, Tesco tea-bags, large packets of toilet rolls, canned stew, meat (limited by freezing space), rice, coffee, pasta sauce, Tesco beer, Tesco vodka, chocolate, large bottles of Tesco shampoo, toothpaste.

You can buy large bags of rice in the Asian stores for about 20 Euros.

Large boxes of washing powder for 20 Euros (Bold, 90 washes) can be found in some stores (I don't know the stores but I got a friend to buy them as she knows where to get them)

If you know anyone holidaying in Spain/Canaries you can get 200 cigarettes for 5 Euros.

Some people like to buy in bulk but I don't think it's necessary. You can buy a lot of food for about 30 Euro a week if you look at the bargains on offer and you will have much more variety. I would recommend buying a wide variety of foods but that's just my opinion.

I would recommend buying wholewheat rice and pastas because they are very high in energy and fill you up. Porridge is also very good for giving you energy and filling you up.

I haven't looked at Lidl and Aldi yet but will be having a look over the coming weeks.

I don't know about bread/rolls, the ones you put in the oven don't seem to have a long shelf life so if anyone has any suggestions I would like to hear them.

[Conor the Bold]

:S******************************: This is the funniest thread on FA for quite a while.

[Conor the Bold]

I am buying food in Tesco's for the simple reason that it is close by. There are a lot of bargains if you look closely, for example I bought tins of beans, peas, lentils, large packets of porridge, Tesco cereals, razors (49c for 10), canned fruit (30c), creamed rice (25c) soup, pasta, Tesco salmon, Tesco sardines, Tesco tea-bags, large packets of toilet rolls, canned stew, meat (limited by freezing space), rice, coffee, pasta sauce, Tesco beer, Tesco vodka, chocolate, large bottles of Tesco shampoo, toothpaste.

You can buy large bags of rice in the Asian stores for about 20 Euros.

Large boxes of washing powder for 20 Euros (Bold, 90 washes) can be found in some stores (I don't know the stores but I got a friend to buy them as she knows where to get them)

If you know anyone holidaying in Spain/Canaries you can get 200 cigarettes for 5 Euros.

Some people like to buy in bulk but I don't think it's necessary. You can buy a lot of food for about 30 Euro a week if you look at the bargains on offer and you will have much more variety. I would recommend buying a wide variety of foods but that's just my opinion.

I would recommend buying wholewheat rice and pastas because they are very high in energy and fill you up. Porridge is also very good for giving you energy and filling you up.

I haven't looked at Lidl and Aldi yet but will be having a look over the coming weeks.

I don't know about bread/rolls, the ones you put in the oven don't seem to have a long shelf life so if anyone has any suggestions I would like to hear them.

Are you stockpiling fuel? Where do you store it? whats your genny like?

[Almanac]

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Barroso outlined no specific proposals but said a solution needed to be based on transparency, responsibility, cross-border supervision and global governance. He also said the world's financial system needed "major reform."

Why is the Council on Foreign Relations, and the fact that so many senior members of the American government have come from it, significant?

The below is adapted from Estulin's book, 'The True Story of the Bilderberger Group' which also covers the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

In the fiftieth anniversary edition of the CFR's quarterly publication, Kingman Brewster Jr clarified its purpose in a leading article, Reflections on our national purpose:

"Our national purpose should be to abolish American nationality and to take some risks in order to invite others to pool their sovereignty with ours."

The proposals aimed at achieving this, including neutralising America's military power through disarmament, are advanced by the Commission on Global Governance. Its report published by the Oxford University Press in 1995 is a blueprint for the UN's future role as a world government.

James Warburg, son of CFR founder Paul Warburg, declared to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "We shall have world government whether or not you like it- by conquest or consent."

Nelson Rockefeller wrote a book, The Future of Federalism, in which he argued that the nation state is anachronistic.

Kissinger's address at a Bilderberger conference in Evian, France in 1992 was recorded by a Swiss delegate, Michael Ringier, CEO of Ringier Inc. In it he said, "Today Americans would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow, they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil... individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by their world government."

Well crises have come and more are on the way. We have Biden, Powell, and Haas's testimony for that. The first two CFR members; the last the CFR president. UN troops are already stationed across America.