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    Nobody is in control of the banking system. Its s*****d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    British nuclear expert's 17th floor UN death plunge 'was not suicide'

    A British nuclear expert who fell from the 17th floor of a United Nations building did not commit suicide and may have been hurled to his death, says a doctor who carried out a second post-mortem examination.

    Read more: British nuclear expert's 17th floor UN death plunge 'was not suicide' | Mail Online
    Hmm. Maybe should be on an Iran thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    British nuclear expert's 17th floor UN death plunge 'was not suicide'

    A British nuclear expert who fell from the 17th floor of a United Nations building did not commit suicide and may have been hurled to his death, says a doctor who carried out a second post-mortem examination.

    Read more: British nuclear expert's 17th floor UN death plunge 'was not suicide' | Mail Online
    Wow. Thanks for that Rhonda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Hmm. Maybe should be on an Iran thread.
    Iran is not responsible, no more than Iraq was responsible for the assassination of David Kelly.
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    Just to recap, here's what was posted a week ago:

    A police spokesman told the Austrian Times today that investigators had not ruled out murder as no suicide note has been found.

    "Whenever there is a case where others may have been involved we will investigate all the possible scenarios. Murder is one possibility, suicide another," the spokesman said.

    He added investigators were waiting for the result of an autopsy.
    [COLOR=#0066cc]Brit UN nuclear expert may have been murdered, police say – General News – Austrian Times[/COLOR]

    This follows many other suspicious deaths involving scientists, many linked to a bioweapons programme, the most prominent being Dr David Kelly.

    Amazing how scientists with no psychiatric history suddenly become suicidal. Right from the start suspicions were raised about Dr Kelly's supposed suicide, especially when no formal inquest was carried out. On the day of his death he sent an email to a journalist warning about "dark actors playing games."

    ...The most detailed objection was provided in a letter from three medical doctors published in [COLOR=#0066cc]The Guardian[/COLOR],[COLOR=#0066cc][19][/COLOR] reinforced by support from two other senior physicians in a later letter to the Guardian.[COLOR=#0066cc][20][/COLOR] These doctors argued that the [COLOR=#0066cc]autopsy[/COLOR] finding of a transected [COLOR=#0066cc]ulnar artery[/COLOR] could not have caused a degree of blood loss that would kill someone, particularly when outside in the cold (where [COLOR=#0066cc]vasoconstriction[/COLOR] would slow blood loss). Further, this conflicted with the minimal amount of blood found at the scene. They also contended that the amount of co-proxamol found was only about a third of what would normally be fatal. Nor was he seen to have left the house with any bottled water or other liquid which would have been essential to assist in the consumption of the pills. Dr. Rouse, a British epidemiologist wrote to the [COLOR=#0066cc]British Medical Journal[/COLOR] pointing out that the act of committing suicide by severing wrist arteries is an extremely rare occurrence in a 59-year-old man with no previous psychiatric history... Little blood lost

    Dave Bartlett and Vanessa Hunt, the two [COLOR=#0066cc]paramedics[/COLOR] who were called to the scene of Kelly's death, have since gone public with their view that there was not enough blood at the location to justify the belief that he died from blood loss. Bartlett and Hunt told the Guardian that they saw a small amount of blood on plants near Kelly's body and a patch of blood the size of a coin on his trousers...

    No fingerprints on knife

    On 15 October 2007, it was discovered, through a Freedom of Information request, that the knife with which Kelly allegedly committed suicide had no fingerprints on it
    [COLOR=#0066cc]David Kelly (weapons expert) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/COLOR]

    There's no doubt he was murdered. The question is by whom and why.
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    Scientists linked to [COLOR=#800080]ethno-specific bioweapons[/COLOR] have a high mortality rate.

    [COLOR=#0066cc]More dead scientists here[/COLOR] including the five Russian microbiologists flying in a plane which was shot down by a "rogue" surface to air missile.

    The Mail article Rhonda posted makes for chilling reading. This latest death occurred just two weeks ago:

    Professor Kathrin Yen, of the Ludwig Institute in Graz, Austria, which specialises in traumatology research, said she had more tests to complete on Mr Hampton, who had a three-year-old son with Ms Gryshcuk. But she said one possible theory was that Mr Hampton was carried to the 17th floor from his workplace on the sixth floor and thrown to his death.

    Professor Yen used new forensic techniques to detect internal bruising caused by strangulation which would not be visible to the eye. She said: ‘In my opinion, it does not look like suicide. My example is that somebody took him up to the top floor and took him down. ‘At the moment I don’t have the police reports. We did a CT scan. From the external exam, I saw injuries on the neck but these were not due to strangulation.’
    Read more: [COLOR=#003580]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1224377/British-nuclear-experts-17th-floor-UN-death-plunge-suicide.html#ixzz0Vf2pJYTQ[/COLOR]
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    Hmmm..

    Interesting thread.

    Forgive me if I'm repeating what somebody else has said, but it would take hours to read everything which has been posted on this topic.

    One of the fascinating aspects of the occult/Masonic symbolism which appears everywhere nowadays is the fact that it passes relatively unnoticed. For example, when Andrew Jackson designed the US dollar bill he filled it with Masonic symbols. Indeed, Washington viewed from above is awash with such emblems - especially the Pentagon, which is a pentagram of sorts.

    Even in everyday settings we see ancient and occult symbolism - the Starbucks logo, for example, looks very like Isis unveiled (or, perhaps, Minerva).

    There is no doubt in my mind that powerful groups of people, like the Bilderbergers, are drawn to ritual and occult practices. The Nazis used the Swastika, tilted to one side, as an emblem for the way in which they would destroy peace and drive the world into chaos. It is no coincidence that Nazi occult activity began when Hitler was inducted into the Thule society.

    When we witness the forces of the state taking lives (David Kelly, for certain, Robin Cook, maybe) in plain sight and see the forces of the same state rally to ensure the guilty are protected, many people sense a hidden source of power, standing behind the drama of politics and conflict, quietly pulling all our strings.

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    Below is where British nuclear scientist Timothy Hampton was murdered two weeks ago by being thrown 120ft to his death from the seventeenth floor down a stairwell. He worked on the sixth floor. It was inside a UN building. A year previously an American worker died in almost identical circumstances:



    Interior of the UN building where nuclear expert met his death
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    Considering that the UN immediately and erroneously ruled out foul play in Hampton's death- before it was possible to rule it out- I wouldn't pay too much attention to their denial here either:

    The UN has strongly denied the claims although Mr Hampton's title - processing engineer - meant he was "part of the team maintaining and operating the International Data Centre Division application software to generate and distribute data products and services to CTBTOs 182 Member States".

    This meant he was responsible for monitoring a vast array of technical data from hundreds of monitoring stations around the world in the hope of discovering any illegal nuclear activity - including Iran. In fact although CTBTO officials were reluctant to admit it, of the 300 plus monitoring stations set up globally there are at least two in the geographical area of Iran sending data back to Vienna.
    UN Nuclear Expert's Death 'Not Suicide', page 1

    An Austrian woman died in exactly the same way in the same building- falling / being thrown from the 19th floor- a year and a half ago:

    A 44-year-old Austrian woman who worked for the United Nations plunged from the 19th floor of the iconic Secretariat building Sunday in an apparent suicide leap, police said.

    Maria DiBiase, who worked with the Austrian Consulate, was discovered in the complex’s rear courtyard by horrified UN staffers about 8 a.m., police said.

    DiBiase, who lived in a dormitory on W. 34th St., apparently jumped after showing up for work at the UN early Sunday, police sources said.
    cryptogon.com Austrian UN Employee Dies in Fall from 19th Floor

    It should be noted that committing suicide by throwing yourself down a stairwell inside a building is virtually unknown.
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