Funnily enough thats exactly what it is.Originally Posted by itstoolateforplacebos
And again how are heroes like youirself and Almanac still allowed to walk around (assuming of course you are not just on day release) and not rubbed out by the Secret World Government?
Consider all the judgments, insults and assumptions ThacOman crams into this "post", in the process breaking every rule on the site. But no argument. No discussion. No refutation.
Here's a few more: "nut job" "deluded nut case" "brain dead simpleton": what happened to the new one strike rule concerning personal insults? (Though I find the simpleton remark amusingly ironic given the circumstances).
Personally, I can take the flak but it's hardly in the spirit of the site, especially in the new circumstances. I must admit though I gave enough flak myself for years formerly to people who presented these ideas.
I was stupid, smug, self-assured and scornful and above all woefully ignorant of the subject matter. But that didn't stop me angrily censoring those people who were aware of the evidence I now present here; I dismissed out of hand any notion that there could be any truth in any of this. I questioned the sanity of those who professed such ideas and pitied them. Predictable enough reactions.
You see ThacOman assumes he knows me. He thinks he can slot me into a category and dismiss everything I have written. But ThacOman doesn't know me at all. I had far more sophisticated arguments against conspiracy theories than what he has put forward here, which drew on the work of others who explained the origins of these theories in psychological and philosophical terms. I am actually the least likely person to believe in a conspiracy theory.
ThacOman, for some reason, cannot distinguish between conspiratorial speculation and evidence-backed research, between fiction and fact, between imagination and reason.
Here ThacOman erects a straw man in order to demolish it, which is deeply anti-intellectual. I never once said that the recorded actions, stated desires and verifiable power of a small elite explain "everything". This would be absurd. Much happens that has nothing to do with the plans of the globalist elite. Everyday politics are far too petty for them to be involved in. They think big and have already made big changes to the world's structure. More are coming.
ThacOman has not once attempted to enter into a discussion. If ThacOman followed through even one of the posts here he would soon realise that the world is somewhat different to what he imagines.
ThacOman: a few questions: Is the American Federal Reserve Bank in private hands or not? Does the Council on Foreign Relations promote one world government or not (if you doubt this I shall supply you with exact references)? Have up to 50% of American cabinet members come from the CFR or not? Is the Bildeberger Group's long-term aim to achieve world government or not? Why do the Bildebergers meet in such extreme secrecy, clearing out hotels three days in advance, often bringing their own cooks, cleaners, waiters etc and with a total press blackout? Is it because they are discussing golf techniques or perhaps something more controversial?
Is David Rockefeller one of the most powerful men in the world or not? Is he committed to a one world government or not? Do Rockefeller interests control a huge percentage of the earth's natural resources or not? Do Rothschild interests control a huge amount of the world's money or not?
Why was Iraq invaded? Why was Mossadegh toppled? Why was the Shah toppled 25 years later? Why was a major Italian leader, Mattei, who followed an independent oil and gas policy to the cartel of the Seven Sisters assassinated? Why for that matter was a Prime Minister of the same country, Moro, threatened by Henry Kissinger (as Moro's wife subsequently testified in court) on a visit to the US and later assassinated? What private interests control most of the natural resources of North Africa and the Middle East? What kind of practical power does this give them?
A simple one: who sets the world's price of gold everyday, ThacOman?
Do you have any idea how these questions are connected?
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Thanks. I'm just getting a taste of my own medicine. Anyone who seriously investigates the evidence- even from just one angle, say the origin and ownership of the American Federal Reserve Bank, will soon arrive at some very unpalatable conclusions.
An priori dismissal of all arguments, no matter how well reasoned or no matter how well supported by evidence is actually deeply irrational. It really only requires a little investigation or even a little reflection.
For example, if the Bildeberger conferences really had nothing to do with policy-making, would they not wrap them up instead of continuing them in even more closely guarded secrecy?
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What you have posted has been posted before here, dozens of times. And please don't whinge about the rules, the first rule of this site is that is its political discussion site. Nothing you have posted it up for discussion - to you and a hand full of other loons it is absolute proof and you cannot be convinced otherwise. Therefore, why bother posting it if it is not to be discussed?
As for the rest of my last post, it obviously makes enough sense that you cannot refute any part of it.
And gold, which thankfully for you is more expensive that tin foil, has no set price, but a price influened by market demand. When stocks and bonds wobble, the demand for gold goes up because it is a surer investment and a safer commodity to invest money in, and hence the price rises (or falls if the markets are boyant). Its simple economics - nothing to do with secret cabals or world governments.
I'm glad to see you so happy but I must inform you that there was nothing to refute in your post because you said nothing. What can one do against someone who refuses to discuss a subject while at the same time bizarrely accusing his opponent of refusing to discuss a subject? I don't know how to make this simpler: you are incorrect. But because you are apparently too lazy or perhaps too practically stupid to actually investigate the leads I suggested then you will continue in your state of blissful ignorance, so accurately depicted in that charming photograph you posted.
I await your attempts to refute the factual information I have presented here. If you are unable to, you might consider redirecting your discharges of digital diarrhoea to somewhere where they'll be more appreciated.
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Just curious, but where have the Bilderburg group stated that they want a single world government? As far as I know it is a think tank and nothing more. Neither are its meetings secret even if attending is by invite only.
And I notice that you alluded to Bohemian Grove to in your original post. Do you go the whole hog and acredit them with buring badies as sacrafices to a giant wooden Owl that represents their god? Because most of your so called evidance comes from a guy who states exactly that. Its a credible as the rest of the guff you have cobbled together in your time out from reality.
To address the latter point first,
if you had actually watched the linked video you would see that Jones was telling the truth. In fact, in a pre-emptive strike against further negative publicity, attendees released photographs of the ritual down through the decades. They are also on the video. Call it what you will, it is wacked-out weird at the very least.
An little extract from the wikipedia article on the Bohemian Grove:
"Since the founding of the club, the Bohemian Grove's mascot has been an [COLOR=#002bb8]owl[/COLOR], symbolizing knowledge. A statue of an owl stands at the head of the lake in the Grove; the Owl Shrine was designed by sculptor and two-time club president ...Since 1929, the Owl Shrine has served as the backdrop of the yearly Cremation of Care ceremony[COLOR=#002bb8].[/COLOR]The Club's patron saint is [COLOR=#002bb8]John of Nepomuk[/COLOR], who legend says suffered death at the hands of a Bohemian monarch rather than disclose the confessional secrets of the queen. A large wood carving of St. John in cleric robes with his index finger over his lips stands at the shore of the lake in the Grove, symbolizing the secrecy kept by the Grove's attendees throughout its long history.
The Cremation of Care ceremony was devised in 1893 by a member named Joseph D. Redding, a lawyer from [COLOR=#002bb8]New York[/COLOR]... In 1913, the ceremony was separated from the Grove Play and moved to the first night to become "an exorcising of the Demon to ensure the success of the ensuing two weeks".
The ceremony involves the poling of a small boat across a lake containing an [COLOR=#002bb8]effigy[/COLOR] of Care (called "Dull Care"). Dark, hooded figures receive from the ferryman the effigy which is placed on an altar and at the end of the ceremony, is set on [COLOR=#002bb8]fire[/COLOR]. This "cremation" symbolizes that members are banishing the "dull cares" of conscience.[COLOR=#002bb8][2][/COLOR] [Interesting]
The ceremony takes place in front of a 45-foot (14 m) high hollow owl statue made of concrete over expanded metal framing and steel supports. The moss- and lichen-covered statue simulates a natural rock formation, yet holds electrical and audio equipment within it. During the ceremony, a recording of the voice of [COLOR=#002bb8]Walter Cronkite[/COLOR], a member of the Bohemian Club, is used as the voice of The Owl.[COLOR=#002bb8][1][/COLOR] Music and [COLOR=#002bb8]pyrotechnics[/COLOR] accompany the ritual for dramatic effect.
With its combination of wealth and power, Bohemian Grove's secrecy has been a target for protest for many years. The Bohemian Grove Action Network of [COLOR=#002bb8]Occidental, California[/COLOR] organizes protests and has aided journalists who wish to penetrate the secrecy surrounding the encampment. Over the years, individuals have infiltrated the Grove then later published video and claimed accounts of the activities at Bohemian Grove.
On [COLOR=#002bb8]July 15[/COLOR], [COLOR=#002bb8]2000[/COLOR], [COLOR=#002bb8]Austin[/COLOR], [COLOR=#002bb8]Texas[/COLOR]-based filmmaker [COLOR=#002bb8]Alex Jones[/COLOR] and his cameraman, Mike Hanson, infiltrated the Grove and successfully made it out with documented evidence. With a hidden camera, Jones and Hanson were able to film the Cremation of Care ceremony. The footage was the centerpiece of Jones' documentary, Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove. Jones claimed that the Cremation of Care is an "ancient [COLOR=#002bb8]Canaanite[/COLOR], [COLOR=#002bb8]Luciferian[/COLOR], [COLOR=#002bb8]Babylon[/COLOR] mystery religion ceremony," and that the owl statue is [COLOR=#002bb8]Moloch[/COLOR], although ancient descriptions of Moloch suggest a human figure with the head of a bull rather than an owl...
Ronson documented his view of the ritual in his book, [COLOR=#002bb8]Them: Adventures With Extremists[/COLOR], writing that it was a startling, immature, and bizarre way for world leaders to spend their summer vacations, but that he did not see evidence of covert [COLOR=#002bb8]Satanism[/COLOR]. According to his description of the account it was nothing more than a fraternity-esque ritual, and the only reason one could see it as Satanic was if one were looking for Satanism in it to begin with."
[Despite this article's claim to the contrary an owl is one of two symbols of Moloch.]
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It must be true. You see they'd send Almanac here on to post what you see above to make it look as though "world takeover theories" are nothing more that the ravings of a paranoid madman who sometimes moonlights as a Catholic Metaphysical Solipsist or pose under another username like Coleman where whe congratulates "Almanac" on how philosophical his posts are....
C'mon everybody knows the top CEO's of the world's corporations, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Queens etc all meet up at the Bilderberg to discuss Manchester United, and will Ronaldo sign for Real next year? Or the price of fish.For example, if the Bildeberger conferences really had nothing to do with policy-making, would they not wrap them up instead of continuing them in even more closely guarded secrecy?
Anyone who spreads the ridiculous story that these meetings are anything more important is a tinfoil-hat wearing loon.
These people only reveal their own ignorance, nothing more. Anyone who has actually read these posts through knows that they can't be lightly dismissed. A person lacking common sense or even a sense of justice will not even do that. If I have posted any lies they should be easily able to refute them.
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