The Neocons Versus Russia

[politicsisrotten]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel. A landmark event was Putin's crackdown on the oligarchs — that small, overwhelmingly Jewish group of tycoons that came to control the industrial base of the USSR during the shift to capitalism. The oligarchs pumped huge amounts of money into the campaign to keep Boris Yeltsin in office and enrich themselves. They also supported Putin at first, but Putin gradually cut into the dominance of the oligarchs.

When in 1996 it appeared that Yeltsin might lose his reelection to the Communists, the oligarchs poured millions into Yeltsin's campaign and began flooding the television airwaves (which they owned) with pro-Yeltsin "news" items while conspicuously failing to give any airtime to the opposition. With Yeltsin's victory, the loans-for-shares deal was finalized, catapulting the oligarchs from a small group of millionaires to a small group of billionaires. A few years later the oligarchs "guaranteed" (to use Berezovsky's term) that Vladimir Putin, like Yeltsin before him, would get elected in Russia's 2000 Presidential elections.

A turning point was the arrest and imprisonment of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the head of Yukos, the oil giant. Arch-neocon Richard Perle led the charge against Putin, calling for the ouster of Russia from the G-8 — the same sort of policy the neocons are proposing in the wake of the invasion of Georgia. Khodorkosky was viewed as without any feeling for Russian nationalism and far too friendly with the United States"

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.com...l-Georgia.html

[seabhcan]

we think

Is that the Royal "we"?

[Clanrickard]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

[Pauli]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

[Electro]

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

Or a neo-Zionist. "Neo-conservatism" intrinsically connected with aggressive military expansionism in the Middle East, is Zionism in disguise.

[quote:35xsoqs1]"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.[/quote:35xsoqs1]

I mean what with Georgia being strategically important for an Iran invasion, with Georgia being the No. 3 supplier of troops for the Zionist-inspired Iraq war, with Israelis training Georgian troops, it's just ludicrious to suggest an Israeli connection in this mess. Just ludicrous. There's no trail of association on the Georgian side at all. :P

Just for fun.

[Clanrickard]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

Yes just confirm that you know fcul all about what you are talking about but then I am not surprised.

[Pauli]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

Yes just confirm that you know fcul all about what you are talking about but then I am not surprised.

A bit rich coming from our resident war-monger. All neo-cons are ******************************s. Fact.

[Clanrickard]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

Yes just confirm that you know fcul all about what you are talking about but then I am not surprised.

A bit rich coming from our resident war-monger. All neo-cons are ******************************s. Fact.

Can you define neo-con?

[Pauli]

[quote=Clanrickard]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

Yes just confirm that you know fcul all about what you are talking about but then I am not surprised.

A bit rich coming from our resident war-monger. All neo-cons are ******************************s. Fact.

Can you define neo-con?[/quote:3jke4imc]

Traditional neo-conservatism was defined by conservative public policies based on free enterprise, reduced government, individual freedom, traditional American values and strong national defence.

It has been moulded by the Bush/Cheney regime to mean unfettered corporatism, ruptured government, massively circumscribed individual freedom, a rejection of traditional American values and insane defence spending.

That is its meaning today

[Sligoboy]

[quote=Clanrickard]

"Quite simply, we think that neocon hostility stems from the fact that Russia under Vladimir Putin proved to be far more nationalistic than is good for the Jews or for Israel.

Nothing like the Jews and their supposed allies the neocons (despite the fact most people don't know what a neocon is) quite works as well when you want a bogeymen.

If it looks like a ******************************, thinks like a ****************************** and talks like a ******************************, it's a neo-con. Simple really.

Yes just confirm that you know fcul all about what you are talking about but then I am not surprised.

A bit rich coming from our resident war-monger. All neo-cons are ******************************s. Fact.

Can you define neo-con?[/quote:1n02lhfp]
One definition widely accepted in the US and elsewhere are those who penned and signed the PNAC document back in the 90's.

A leading signatory of course is one Dick Cheney.

Bush is a blank canvas. Too stupid to be anything other than what he is, highly impressionable and a total yes man but with a huge chip on his shoulder toward all and any forms of intellectualism, he may not have started from a neoconservative base, but he is firmly embedded in its doctrine now.


It took, improbably, the arrival of George Bush in the White House and September 11, 2001, to catapult [neoconservatism] into the public consciousness. When Mr Bush cited its most simplified tenet — that the US should seek to promote liberal democracy around the world — as a key case for invading Iraq, neoconservatism was suddenly everywhere. It was, to its many critics, a unified ideology that justified military adventurism, sanctioned torture and promoted aggressive Zionism.

-Gerard Baker-


But just for you, Neconservatism fo dummies