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    Re: US grows Al Qaeda, all to plan

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan
    Perhaps ... though in this instance: they had no need to attack Iraq...
    Since when has the American establishment ever had a "need" to do anything?

    They do as they wish with the rest of the world's political leader too afraid to say anything. It's a feckin disgrace.
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    Re: US grows Al Qaeda, all to plan

    [O]peration [I]raqi [L]iberation.
    Oil for Israel you mean. The only country with possible oil supply problems pre-Iraq invasion was Israel. This is what supply lines look like now:



    http://www.rys2sense.com/hub/get/post/articles.php?id=9

    Israel did have an oil problem.

    According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA), a statistical agency of the US Department of Energy, Israel produces almost no oil and imports nearly all its oil needs (around 237,000 barrels a day in 2002). Traditionally, major oil import sources have included Egypt, the North Sea, West Africa and Mexico

    Information provided by the EIA states that in April 2003, there was some discussion of "reopening" the old oil pipeline from Mosul in Northern Iraq to the Israeli port of Haifa on its northern Mediterranean coast.

    The line, which was built in the 1930s, carried 100,000 barrels a day at its peak, but has been closed since Israel's establishment in 1948.

    The reopening of this pipeline is, on the other hand, reported as being able to "solve Israel's energy crisis at a stroke".

    It's a war for oil the left shouts. "No blood for oil" they say. Yeh that's true, 'no blood for oil' going to Israel, while our own gas prices rise.
    Oil supply for the USA and the rest of the West would have remained stable if Iraq was not invaded, and the 400% increase in price we have seen since then could have been avoided.
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    Re: US grows Al Qaeda, all to plan

    the us is the number one power in the world.I believe that the powerbrokers are very happy with the way things have turned out in afghanistan and iraq.These countries would take 30/40 years to get back on their feet and serve as a good warning to any other countries that allow enimies of the us to prosper.As for casualties such as innocent civilians or us soldiers[ordinary joes from mostly poor but expendable families].Do you think the people that run the us have any difficulty sleeping at night for the loss of people that have little or no impact on their lives?

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    Re: US grows Al Qaeda, all to plan

    I'd agree with Electro that the whole "it's about oil thing" really doesn't wash anymore. Heck in 2001 bin Laden was aiming to get oil to $144 per barrel ... and he's got it now.


    New York Times, October 14, 2001

    ''If bin Laden takes over and becomes king of Saudi Arabia, he'd turn off the tap,'' said Roger Diwan, a managing director of the Petroleum Finance Company, a consulting firm in Washington. ''He said at one point that he wants oil to be $144 a barrel'' -- about six times what it sells for now.

    The only objective this war has served is enriching the military-industrial complex !!


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