Is It Morally Right to Celebrate Occupation

[Mujaahid]

On the 7th of May at Berkley Court, Dublin - the embassy of the Zionist State will celebrate its occupation, subjugation and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Similar celebrations will be going on around the world. With our history of occupation, is it right for prominent Irish politicians and businessmen to be attending such an event here in Ireland? The Guardian's letter section carried this piece:
We're not celebrating Israel's anniversary
In May, Jewish organisations will be celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel. This is understandable in the context of centuries of persecution culminating in the Holocaust. Nevertheless, we are Jews who will not be celebrating. Surely it is now time to acknowledge the narrative of the other, the price paid by another people for European anti-semitism and Hitler's genocidal policies. As Edward Said emphasised, what the Holocaust is to the Jews, the Naqba is to the Palestinians.
You can read the full letter here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...hepalestinians

[A_man_about_a_dog]

Fair play to them. That letter is a good a letter as I've read on the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

Those who wrote the letter have clearly got a sense of morality which many other Israelis/Jews don't. I'm not saying that all israelis or all Jews are morally inept, just that many of them fail to recognise the truth of the situation, something which in turn leads to moral ineptitude.

Again, hats off to the letter writers. If only many of their fellow Israelis and Jews could approch the situation with the same acknowledgement of the truth, everyone would be better off, whether Palestinian or Israeli.

[fergalr]

A two-state solution involves respect for both putative states. If you don't recognise the rationale for Israel celebrating its independence then reflexive bias is the least you can be accused of.

[garlandgreen]

It seems to me that they are celebrating the establishment of the state of Israel rather than the occupation of the Palestinian territories

[Mujaahid]

The signatories to the letter I posted had this to say:

We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations

[fergalr]

We celebrate a state at least partly founded on terrorism. Certainly the Israelis are engaging in a form of collective punishment last viewed as acceptable on the other side of VE Day but I don't believe they are practising ethnic cleansing as it is generally defined. In any case, Mujahiiiiiid, you're an awfully repetitive bore of a poster and most of the faux-Muslim twaddle you parade here would be better off circling the toilet u-bend.

[garlandgreen]

Right. Most states have origins that could be said to be morally dubious. But most states do celebrate their "birthdays" none the less. It's only natural that those who have an affinity for the state of Israel would celebrate the foundation of the state

[A_man_about_a_dog]

Right. Most states have origins that could be said to be morally dubious. But most states do celebrate their "birthdays" none the less. It's only natural that those who have an affinity for the state of Israel would celebrate the foundation of the state

Ah, but morally dubious is relation to what, 16th century European feudalism? Or 20th century terrorism? There is a massive differene between the two.

[fergalr]

Most of the states that became independent in the 20th century will have had a dalliance with what could be termed either terrorism or a "freedom movement".

[Xipe Totec]

You can read my full letter here:



Yo, Israel!

Get outta palestine, or I'm liable to occupy your ass with my foot

If you haven't vanished from the page of time before i count to 3... you'll find yerself wholly ground