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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega1447 View Post
    Really? What benefits has English occupation (and support for it) brought to Ireland?
    The roads, the water mains... Oh wait that was the EU. Or was it the Romans?
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    The New York Times is putting a particular spin on this story.
    If they ran it with a different angle, like say "Denmark disadvantaged immigrant children to receive 25 hours per week free kindergarten childcare so they can mix freely with local kids" it might look a bit different to American readers.
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    Sounds like the Danes are trying to tame a wolf. Be careful it doesn't eat the toddler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    Same should be applied to the largest immigrant community in Ireland - the unionists on both sides of the border.
    Ok, I get the PUL's up north, but the other side of the border? Are you talking about FG voters or South Dublin residents?

    Just because I don't go to Croke park does not make me a unionist.
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    What exactly are Danish values these days? Drunkenness? Watching porn? Capitalist greed? Contemporary Western civilization really doesn't have much values left to speak of. It is rather unjust also given the vast majority of Danes aren't Christians to force or attempt to force Muslims to celebrate Christmas and Easter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    The foundation of the IRA.
    3 pin plugs.
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    This is incredibly undemocratic and discriminatory, Denmark is going the way of Nazi Germany it seems. I hope the minorities and those that support true human rights revolt against the government, that’s just disgusting. How can such a progressive, tolerant nation and a xenophobic racist one exist so close side by side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldEyeAlice View Post
    This is incredibly undemocratic and discriminatory, Denmark is going the way of Nazi Germany it seems. I hope the minorities and those that support true human rights revolt against the government, that’s just disgusting. How can such a progressive, tolerant nation and a xenophobic racist one exist so close side by side?
    Oh cripes, I thought RatioEtFides had retired you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Denmark, as with the other Nordics, is a highly co-operative society

    It seems they are shocked by the insular nature of indigent immigrants

    I am ambivalent about their current & proposed response

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/07/0...t-ghettos.html


    If the proposals dropped the religious tinge, then I think they have some merit

    Denmark is offering an opportunity to these immigrants/refugees , and some tough love to make them take it, seems fair

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    Sweden and Finland used to do this back in the 60's, 70's and 80's. The system worked well then. Saudi and UK lobbying changed that. The next immigrants did not integrate and the problems started.
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    Danish society is extremely rule obsessed and consequently they think they must solve every problem with new rules\laws. Slavish obedience to rules and logical thinking is admired and deeply rooted in their culture.

    In Denmark you’ll often come across angry people just looking to find someone breaking a rule so they can have a go or report them. I know one guy who’s mother in law insisted on painting the front door of his summer house and within half an hour the police arrived to investigate a neighbor reporting him for exploitation.

    Having spent a fair bit of time there I’ve noticed that a certain racist element are using this more and more in a passive aggressive way against immigrants who don’t have the same obsession with rules. It’s a kind of legitimate way to marginalise them while at the same time occupying the high moral ground.

    While I think it’s a good thing to educate immigrants about the culture of the host country, I don’t see why this needs to start from age one? Also making laws that only apply to certain people seems dangerous and fundamentally flawed to me.
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