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    Jersey child abuse scandal in state run institutions

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 428019.ece

    A disturbing story, which appears, to some extent, to mirror the Irish experience.

    The former Jersey minister Stuart Syvret was disgracefully sacked and hounded from office for trying to draw attention to the issue. Now, he has been vindicated.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 428018.ece
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    Pretty awful reaction from parliament.

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    Pretty awful reaction from parliament.
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    Re: Jersey child abuse scandal in state run institutions

    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3428019.ece

    A disturbing story, which appears, to some extent, to mirror the Irish experience.

    The former Jersey minister Stuart Syvret was disgracefully sacked and hounded from office for trying to draw attention to the issue. Now, he has been vindicated.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 428018.ece
    This scandal seems much worse than anything in Ireland, as the police believe there may be the remains of at least a dozen dead bodies buried in the vacinity. However, don't expect much of a response to the story on here or in the Irish media. Many posters and journalists in Ireland would only be interested in the story if the Catholic Church could somehow be implicated. There have been numerous child abuse scandals in state-run institutions in the U. Kingdom and elsewhere. However, in comparison with scandals in church-run institutions, they are of little use for the cause of advancing the secularists' agenda, so they are quickly forgotten. Very unlikely we'll see a 'Magdalene' film made about this particular institution.

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    Re: Jersey child abuse scandal in state run institutions

    freedomlover,

    I think we could all agree that it would have been better if these awful things had not happened to anyone, anywhere, or, at least, that the people responsible were punished for their actions.

    I don't think that anyone is defending the actions of any of these institutions.

    As to why there might be disportionate reporting or interest in cases involving religious run institutions, it probably stems from the claim by that religion to know the mind of God, and to take their morality from God. When an organisation is found to be so egregiously full of sh*t, then it is to be expected that there will be interest in the story.

    If you are a member of one of these organisations, and that organisation still claims to be at the moral center of eveything, then you can't complain if people who don't agree cite the past and present endemic immoral actions of that institution to counter those claims.

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    Re: Jersey child abuse scandal in state run institutions

    Quote Originally Posted by freedomlover
    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3428019.ece

    A disturbing story, which appears, to some extent, to mirror the Irish experience.

    The former Jersey minister Stuart Syvret was disgracefully sacked and hounded from office for trying to draw attention to the issue. Now, he has been vindicated.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 428018.ece
    This scandal seems much worse than anything in Ireland, as the police believe there may be the remains of at least a dozen dead bodies buried in the vacinity. However, don't expect much of a response to the story on here or in the Irish media. Many posters and journalists in Ireland would only be interested in the story if the Catholic Church could somehow be implicated. There have been numerous child abuse scandals in state-run institutions in the U. Kingdom and elsewhere. However, in comparison with scandals in church-run institutions, they are of little use for the cause of advancing the secularists' agenda, so they are quickly forgotten. Very unlikely we'll see a 'Magdalene' film made about this particular institution.

    So true as Kincora - Boys Home "The True story" is still awaited.

    Not the first and not the last and UK has its own well documented scandals again and again but hey its not the Catholic church so the media ignore.

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    Re: Jersey child abuse scandal in state run institutions

    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe
    Quote Originally Posted by freedomlover
    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3428019.ece

    A disturbing story, which appears, to some extent, to mirror the Irish experience.

    The former Jersey minister Stuart Syvret was disgracefully sacked and hounded from office for trying to draw attention to the issue. Now, he has been vindicated.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 428018.ece
    This scandal seems much worse than anything in Ireland, as the police believe there may be the remains of at least a dozen dead bodies buried in the vacinity. However, don't expect much of a response to the story on here or in the Irish media. Many posters and journalists in Ireland would only be interested in the story if the Catholic Church could somehow be implicated. There have been numerous child abuse scandals in state-run institutions in the U. Kingdom and elsewhere. However, in comparison with scandals in church-run institutions, they are of little use for the cause of advancing the secularists' agenda, so they are quickly forgotten. Very unlikely we'll see a 'Magdalene' film made about this particular institution.

    So true as Kincora - Boys Home "The True story" is still awaited.

    Not the first and not the last and UK has its own well documented scandals again and again but hey its not the Catholic church so the media ignore.
    Yeah but the difference is that the church leaders like parish priests and bishops manipulated things so that they could demand that more and more children be taken away from their families for any reason and be sent to their institutions. You've got to factor in the aggressive way they went after children who really shouldn't have been sent to those institutions in the first place.
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    The Church did not take anyone from their families. It was the state.

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    Re: Jersey child abuse scandal in state run institutions

    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe
    Quote Originally Posted by freedomlover
    Quote Originally Posted by pluralist
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3428019.ece

    A disturbing story, which appears, to some extent, to mirror the Irish experience.

    The former Jersey minister Stuart Syvret was disgracefully sacked and hounded from office for trying to draw attention to the issue. Now, he has been vindicated.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 428018.ece
    This scandal seems much worse than anything in Ireland, as the police believe there may be the remains of at least a dozen dead bodies buried in the vacinity. However, don't expect much of a response to the story on here or in the Irish media. Many posters and journalists in Ireland would only be interested in the story if the Catholic Church could somehow be implicated. There have been numerous child abuse scandals in state-run institutions in the U. Kingdom and elsewhere. However, in comparison with scandals in church-run institutions, they are of little use for the cause of advancing the secularists' agenda, so they are quickly forgotten. Very unlikely we'll see a 'Magdalene' film made about this particular institution.

    So true as Kincora - Boys Home "The True story" is still awaited.

    Not the first and not the last and UK has its own well documented scandals again and again but hey its not the Catholic church so the media ignore.
    Not true folks. Try googling the Waterhouse Report...a major State inquiry into abuse in "Care" homes in Wales. That scandal was also the basis for a major docu-drama on BBC1 in 2001 which went on to win scores of inetrnational awards.

    I was personally invovled in making to documentaries with the BBC on child abuse on Merseyside, focusing on the failure of the authorities to investigate and respond over a 30 year period...which also touched on abuse in state institutions...secular institutions.

    At one point, some 90%+ of UK Police forces were carrying out major investigations of child abuse in state institutions...all secular.

    Google the Pindown inquiries in the UK...agaion focused on secular state institutions.

    Abuse happens in situations where an individual or group have unquestioned control over vulnerable children and adults...secular or religious.
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