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    Quote Originally Posted by caledhel View Post
    I don't know. Nothing has happened there in decades and i think that everyone has gotten comfortable with it. It's become a sort of racket where everyone has invested in playing a character in a play where everything stays the same. It's all a bit Samuel Beckett.

    Well it was never the case that the US was anything other than an ally of Israel and this openly recognises this. They'll have to look for another route to getting a result and needed a shake up to do this as they'd gotten lazy. Personally I think that the Palestinians should have their capital in the other half of Jerusalem but they'll never achieve that if their leaders keep living on hand outs and the peoples' dignity relies on pity.

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    There was and is a lot of hypocrisy going on about embassies and consulates in Jerusalem
    There are already 9 de-facto embassies in Jerusalem - not to Israel but to the PA
    All this BS about the 'unresolved final status of Jerusalem' is simply dressed up anti-semitism

    The U.S. embassy in Israel is located in Tel Aviv, but much less well known is that the U.S. consulate-general sits in Jerusalem, just around the corner from the Prime Minister’s residence—and it handles diplomatic relations with the Palestinian Authority. It is one of nine consulates-general in Jerusalem, all of which serve the same purpose. Five of them—the UK, Turkey, Belgium, Spain and Sweden—are in eastern Jerusalem. The consulates-general of the US, France, Italy, and Greece are in western Jerusalem. The European Union also has a representative office in eastern Jerusalem, and the Holy See has an Apostolic Nunciature there, alongside the Palestinian offices of several international agencies.None of the countries that have consulates in Jerusalem recognize Israeli sovereignty over the city. Consequently, their official embassies remain in Tel Aviv. Their consulates in Jerusalem are, almost uniquely, accredited to no state. And none of the consuls seek an exequatur, the diplomatic authorization required by international law. Nevertheless, the Israeli Foreign Ministry treats them for all intents and purposes as if they were normal consulates accredited to the State of Israel. Their jurisdiction covers the whole of Jerusalem, as apart from Israel, as well as the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
    Why do nine countries refuse to operate embassies in Jerusalem on the grounds that they do not recognize Israeli sovereignty there, while maintaining diplomatic missions to the Palestinians in the very same city? None of the relevant foreign ministries was willing to publicly justify the situation. Indeed, the story of this diplomatic anomaly is one of a situation that no country designed or consciously desired, but that no one today has the will to change.
    Jerusalem Already Has Plenty of Embassies—Just Not to Israel
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    The imams have pronounced.

    https://twitter.com/imshin/status/938241734005452800

    Sheikh of al-Azhar (Muslim University in Egypt), Ahmed al-Tayeb: Washington's recognition of Jerusalem as capital of Israel, and moving its embassy to it, will threaten world peace and open the gates of hell on the West before the East."
    If the Gates of Hell were closed until now, where did the Infidels, Polytheists and sons of Apes and Pigs go....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgellons View Post
    What's Paddy Power giving on Trump rebuilding the Temple and being claimed as the Jewish Messiah?
    Is Mount Carmel in the betting?
    If not..then it holds more importance than Jerusalem....according to the illegal occupiers.
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    Czech Republic is following suit. I've heard the Philippines being mentioned too.

    Czech Republic announces it recognizes West Jerusalem as Israel's capital - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betson View Post
    Did Obama , Bush , Clinton also say they were going to this this in their campaign manifestos?
    Yes. They absolutely did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    https://twitter.com/annamerlan/statu...78985025064960

    https://jerusalemchannel.tv/2014/10/...second-coming/

    Sign 6 is the city of Jerusalem itself. Jesus predicted that Jerusalem would once again be in Jewish lands in the last days! His disciples had asked Jesus if he would at that time restore the kingdom of David to Israel, but Jesus lamented in his Olivet Discourse in Luke 21:24 that, first the holy city would be trampled down by Gentiles… until the times of the Gentiles would be fulfilled. It has taken nearly 2,000 years for the times of the Gentiles to be fulfilled. Since 70 A.D., Jerusalem had been trampled and controlled by Gentiles ….but the Jews miraculously regained control of their capital city in 1967, in the Six-Day War. Keep your eyes upon this major sign, the sign of Jerusalem, because the nations are trying to impose their solutions upon Israel’s capital, but God says through the prophet Zechariah that Jerusalem cannot be moved. The United Nations, the Vatican, and many world leaders want to make Jerusalem an international city. However, God says that the city is His and He has given it to the Jews. Despite God’s warning, UN resolution 476 flagrantly reiterates that Israel’s claim to Jerusalem are null and void. As a result, most countries refuse to transfer their embassies to Jerusalem – Israel’s capital.


    Was anyone proposing to move the whole city?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC Principle View Post
    Yes. They absolutely did.
    Why did they not do it then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    Czech Republic is following suit. I've heard the Philippines being mentioned too.

    Czech Republic announces it recognizes West Jerusalem as Israel's capital - Breaking News - Jerusalem Post

    Just West Jerusalem though.

    That isn't what Trump has stated.

    So the Czechs have NOT followed suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    If the Gates of Hell were closed until now, where did the Infidels, Polytheists and sons of Apes and Pigs go....?
    Strabane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimples 77 View Post
    Was anyone proposing to move the whole city?
    Zechariah has just flew to the shop I'll ask him when he gets back.
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