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    Jack O Neill Jack O Neill is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractional Reserve View Post
    Poverty me hole ,exaggeration all over the shop .Go to places that have real poverty .
    like where? ,

    there is real poverty in the USA and unlike Ireland its not always self inflicted
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    How much poverty in America is as a result of the high divorce rates, there is also the inconvenient statistic that between 65-70% of black kids in America are raised in single parent families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoutcapitalist View Post
    the inconvenient statistic that between 65-70% of black kids in America are raised in single parent families.
    What you talkin bout , devoutcapitalist?

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    Jack O Neill Jack O Neill is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoutcapitalist View Post
    How much poverty in America is as a result of the high divorce rates, there is also the inconvenient statistic that between 65-70% of black kids in America are raised in single parent families.
    completely ignoring the fact that wages in many sectors and have been destroyed personal debt ramped up to a level that even the middle classes are on the verge of poverty . The blueshirts plan on bringing the same strategy to Ireland given time .The Tories have brought it to the UK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack O Neill View Post
    completely ignoring the fact that wages in many sectors and have been destroyed personal debt ramped up to a level that even the middle classes are on the verge of poverty . The blueshirts plan on bringing the same strategy to Ireland given time .The Tories have brought it to the UK
    What's your solution Jack, in California the Minimum Wage is currently been increased fairly substantially but has resulted in job losses.

    As for personal debt, don't buy It If you can't afford it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soubresauts View Post
    Not only that but...

    America's prison population is over 2 million, with about 5 million on probation or on parole.

    And as for healthcare, on which Americans spend more money per head than any other nation, look at the statistics for children in the US:
    • 1 in 6 is learning disabled.
    • 1 in 9 has asthma.
    • 1 in 10 has a mental disorder.
    • 1 in 13 is severely allergic to food.
    • 1 in 20 is epileptic.
    • 1 in 50 has autism.
    • 1 in 400 has diabetes.
    • And there are many other serious ailments common in the US.


    What's going to happen when those kids grow up? The future sure is tense.

    And this year it was reported that life expectancy is going down in America.

    Something's gotta give.
    Ireland has over 4 k beds in prison which I am going to round up to 6000 to pretend it's modern.

    If we applied American rates it'd be 70000.

    I can certainly think 8k could benefit from jail but how could we get to 70k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lúidín View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ial-rapporteur

    Forty-one million Americans are living in poverty, according to the US Census Bureau, and the UN Special rapporteur on extreme poverty, Philip Alston, is to publish a preliminary report on December 15th. No doubt his findings will be rebutted - on Twitter - by the billionaire president.
    Another right-on virtue signaler. The report is pre-determined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoutcapitalist View Post
    What's your solution Jack, in California the Minimum Wage is currently been increased fairly substantially but has resulted in job losses.

    As for personal debt, don't buy It If you can't afford it.
    Debt has become the proxy for a decent wage in America
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    Another right-on virtue signaler. The report is pre-determined.
    Doesn't it really p*ss you off when you find that Utopia is only a crock of shyte, after all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Mac View Post
    Debt has become the proxy for a decent wage in America
    There is no single "America".

    Some states are reasonable environments to live like California, other are basket cases like Kansas, which ran an experiment in low taxation that virtually bankrupted the place.

    Republicans think the whole US should be more like Kansas.
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