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    The real threat from NK is from conventional artillery, not nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volatire View Post
    The real threat from NK is from conventional artillery, not nuclear weapons.

    Sure. But if NK levelled Seoul, what would SK do to Pyongyang?
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    Guy can be sitting on 16 tons of Dunkin donuts.

    Mueller has 16 lawyers, expansive budget, sub-poena powers and armed FBI. He doesn't need to flex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastedheretic View Post
    Below are the WH official statement regarding the morons communication with the Guam governor, also a transcript of the unintelligible nonsense which actually transpired...
    Sorry it's all beyond you. Less cynicism might allow your brain to function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volatire View Post
    The real threat from NK is from conventional artillery, not nuclear weapons.
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    The shoot-back factor is missing from that map. Pyongyang would also have to cope with bombs dropping from the sky.

    Whatever way he looks at it, Kim is toast if it kicks off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    The interview in this link about North Korea's extermination camps makes for harrowing listening. The woman speaks of being kept in a dog cage where there wasn't room to stand. She was forced to hunker down at all times and rest on her lower back. Being slowly starved and enduring regular beatings, she lost all her body fat and the tail bone started to protrude through her skin since it was being constantly grated against the concrete floor. Blood and fluid leaked out as her skin started to rot. She was kept this way for two years.

    This is just one story but there's a remarkable consistency across the various accounts.. Others have sketched what conditions are like. Of skeletal figures lying exhausted in their cells, of people having their arms tied behind their backs and then being hung by the arms while nearby, camp guards laugh and relax, of beatings in the night and the knowledge that you're waiting for your own death and that the outside world will never know.

    UN To Slam N Korea's 'Crimes Against Humanity'
    But Donald Trump is a dangerous man. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Walsh View Post
    Common sense left town in US on Nov 9th 2016, a long time earlier than that in Nth Korea
    Yeah, was that the date that you awoke from a coma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    The shoot-back factor is missing from that map. Pyongyang would also have to cope with bombs dropping from the sky.

    Whatever way he looks at it, Kim is toast if it kicks off.
    Nobody thinks North Korea can win. The problem is that Trump's cheerleaders think North Korea can be beaten with the snap of one's fingers and the damage would be minimal. Any war with North Korea would be tragic on an unbelievable scale. Seoul would be aflame. A variety of Japanese cities might well be too and American bases in the region might well be wiped out rather quickly. With some bad luck the North Koreans have already figured out how to place a nuclear weapon on their ICBM and that means cities in the continental US could well share Seoul's fate.

    The window for preventive war closed a long, long time ago. The sooner Trump and his cheerleaders recognize that, the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    Nobody thinks North Korea can win. The problem is that Trump's cheerleaders think North Korea can be beaten with the snap of one's fingers and the damage would be minimal. Any war with North Korea would be tragic on an unbelievable scale. Seoul would be aflame. A variety of Japanese cities might well be too and American bases in the region might well be wiped out rather quickly. With some bad luck the North Koreans have already figured out how to place a nuclear weapon on their ICBM and that means cities in the continental US could well share Seoul's fate.

    The window for preventive war closed a long, long time ago. The sooner Trump and his cheerleaders recognize that, the better.
    This 'threat to Seoul' is greatly exaggerated

    - most of their artillery cant reach that far

    - and those that can might have other things on their mind when the c.hit hits the fan....

    I'd say a bigger worry would be from missiles

    - but that cuts two ways....

    Unless Kimmy B does anything really stupid then I think a War is still some way off

    - but that one is coming I have no doubt....
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